Cranial sacral therapy ?!
Question: Cranial sacral therapy !?
Well what do you have to say about it!? Someone suggested it for Cluster Headaches since not much else is working, is it a go or a crock of doody!? Www@Answer-Health@Com
Answers:
The link posted by Skepdoc does highlight some of the problems with this therapy!.
I'm an osteopath that does treat using Involuntary motion techniques (AKA Cranial Sacral techniques) but not exclusively!.
Contrary to what the site does say i have converted quite a few people to it when they thought it was a complete load of crock!.
I remember treating a friend who was really skeptical and she went from asserting ' you aren't doing anything! you aren't doing anything!' to relaxing, letting go of all her tension and having the best nights sleep she'd had in over 2 years!.
From recent histological studies we now know that connective tissue (fascia) has a massive neurological interface and a contractile element!. It was prior thought to be inert tissue that just holds everything together!. Who says our hands can't affect this and change the contractile element!? Are we not Biomechanical and our nervous systems firing/feeding back constantly to our tissues!?
Cranial Osteopaths tend to practice Sutherland style Involuntary motion techniques!.
All the practitioners on the course (Only open to osteopaths) will have a decent grounding in structure and function as part of their training and a good knowledge of human anatomy!.
Sutherland teaching tends to practice it from the point of view of using these techniques to affect the connective tissue in the body and affect a change from a structure function point of view!.
Osteopaths generally have excellent palpation skills and although this is subjective this is our major tool for diagnosis after a thorough case history and clinical tests!.
Other health care practitioners who want to practice cranial teqniques tend to go down the upledger root!.
To get onto these courses you need to be in healthcare but not an Osteopath!.
This course does tend to be over simplified and teaches IVM techniques from an energy perspective mainly because many of the students wouldn't have the palpation skill or the knowledge of anatomy that the Osteopaths do!.
Ironically Upledger, who was an MD that did a conversion course to Osteopathy and then did the sutherland cranial courses, is one of the leading researchers in the cranial field and has come up with some physiological models and lots of Published research for the cranial rhythm and the suture movements and is the most 'scientific' out of all the models!. Its a shame his students don't always follow suit!.
The sutures do move and are not fused even into extended old age!.
This has been proven and web sites like Skepdocs favourite keep incorrectly printing "there is no movement" just like anatomy text books print other misleading information like "the sacrum is fused to the inominates by the age of 25" even though this has been conclusively shown to be incorrect!.
Studies have been done which show changes in the brain after Cranial treatment!. The only thing in question is whether or not this involuntary motion is palpable!. The people that insist it isn't do so because they can't feel it and refuse to believe anyone else has the ability to do so!. Its rather like someone being unable to run a marathon and refusing to believe anyone else can just because they can't!.
The site does talk about therapist treating cancer using these techniques!.
Some cranial therapist may do but I certainly don't nor do i know any other Osteopaths who do!. I can't speak for cranial sacral therapists as i don't know any!.
Unfortunately because of sites like this people who read it think that we all do!. I can stick my hand on my heart and say most of us don't!.
The writers of these site usually base them purely on their experience with bad practitioners which is Anecdote!. For some reason Anecdote slagging of altmed is perfectly acceptable but Anecdote supporting altmed is psudoscientific BS!.
Anyone who uses just the involuntary motion as a diagnositc tool without a decent case history and clinical tests is highly dubious and i certainly wouldn't see them myself!.
There are some really scary people in the cranial field who come out with a load of waffly bollox (they tend to come more so from the Upledger trained but certainly not exclusively) but there are always others who are very grounded!.
As far as the Placebo effect goes anyone who has had chronic headaches or other musculoskeletal pain for years and finds it improves massively post treatment doesn't care why particularly as they will have been through other treatment modalities first!.
I'm not sure if it would be successful for cluster headaches, but you will be no wosre off if you try it!.
Give it 3 treatments, if it is unchanged after 3 treatments it will be unchanged after a dozen!.Www@Answer-Health@Com
I'm an osteopath that does treat using Involuntary motion techniques (AKA Cranial Sacral techniques) but not exclusively!.
Contrary to what the site does say i have converted quite a few people to it when they thought it was a complete load of crock!.
I remember treating a friend who was really skeptical and she went from asserting ' you aren't doing anything! you aren't doing anything!' to relaxing, letting go of all her tension and having the best nights sleep she'd had in over 2 years!.
From recent histological studies we now know that connective tissue (fascia) has a massive neurological interface and a contractile element!. It was prior thought to be inert tissue that just holds everything together!. Who says our hands can't affect this and change the contractile element!? Are we not Biomechanical and our nervous systems firing/feeding back constantly to our tissues!?
Cranial Osteopaths tend to practice Sutherland style Involuntary motion techniques!.
All the practitioners on the course (Only open to osteopaths) will have a decent grounding in structure and function as part of their training and a good knowledge of human anatomy!.
Sutherland teaching tends to practice it from the point of view of using these techniques to affect the connective tissue in the body and affect a change from a structure function point of view!.
Osteopaths generally have excellent palpation skills and although this is subjective this is our major tool for diagnosis after a thorough case history and clinical tests!.
Other health care practitioners who want to practice cranial teqniques tend to go down the upledger root!.
To get onto these courses you need to be in healthcare but not an Osteopath!.
This course does tend to be over simplified and teaches IVM techniques from an energy perspective mainly because many of the students wouldn't have the palpation skill or the knowledge of anatomy that the Osteopaths do!.
Ironically Upledger, who was an MD that did a conversion course to Osteopathy and then did the sutherland cranial courses, is one of the leading researchers in the cranial field and has come up with some physiological models and lots of Published research for the cranial rhythm and the suture movements and is the most 'scientific' out of all the models!. Its a shame his students don't always follow suit!.
The sutures do move and are not fused even into extended old age!.
This has been proven and web sites like Skepdocs favourite keep incorrectly printing "there is no movement" just like anatomy text books print other misleading information like "the sacrum is fused to the inominates by the age of 25" even though this has been conclusively shown to be incorrect!.
Studies have been done which show changes in the brain after Cranial treatment!. The only thing in question is whether or not this involuntary motion is palpable!. The people that insist it isn't do so because they can't feel it and refuse to believe anyone else has the ability to do so!. Its rather like someone being unable to run a marathon and refusing to believe anyone else can just because they can't!.
The site does talk about therapist treating cancer using these techniques!.
Some cranial therapist may do but I certainly don't nor do i know any other Osteopaths who do!. I can't speak for cranial sacral therapists as i don't know any!.
Unfortunately because of sites like this people who read it think that we all do!. I can stick my hand on my heart and say most of us don't!.
The writers of these site usually base them purely on their experience with bad practitioners which is Anecdote!. For some reason Anecdote slagging of altmed is perfectly acceptable but Anecdote supporting altmed is psudoscientific BS!.
Anyone who uses just the involuntary motion as a diagnositc tool without a decent case history and clinical tests is highly dubious and i certainly wouldn't see them myself!.
There are some really scary people in the cranial field who come out with a load of waffly bollox (they tend to come more so from the Upledger trained but certainly not exclusively) but there are always others who are very grounded!.
As far as the Placebo effect goes anyone who has had chronic headaches or other musculoskeletal pain for years and finds it improves massively post treatment doesn't care why particularly as they will have been through other treatment modalities first!.
I'm not sure if it would be successful for cluster headaches, but you will be no wosre off if you try it!.
Give it 3 treatments, if it is unchanged after 3 treatments it will be unchanged after a dozen!.Www@Answer-Health@Com
It is very commendable that people like Lightning exist!.
As a human; humans are born honest, it is one of our foremost responsibilities to provide the correct answer if it is our power!.
Thanks ? Lightning ? for making my day!. Thank you, you too SkepDoc for bringing out the best in us!.Www@Answer-Health@Com
As a human; humans are born honest, it is one of our foremost responsibilities to provide the correct answer if it is our power!.
Thanks ? Lightning ? for making my day!. Thank you, you too SkepDoc for bringing out the best in us!.Www@Answer-Health@Com
It all depends on the person doing it!.
If they are well trained, intuitive and sensitive, then yes!.Www@Answer-Health@Com
If they are well trained, intuitive and sensitive, then yes!.Www@Answer-Health@Com
crock of doody
http://skepdic!.com/craniosacral!.htmlWww@Answer-Health@Com
http://skepdic!.com/craniosacral!.htmlWww@Answer-Health@Com