please Advise me,in excruciating pain,terrible back pain what therapies can i tr!


Question: Please Advise me,in excruciating pain,terrible back pain what therapies can i try,did i permenantly damage my?
back?i am 32,Hi everyone i have constant back pain,i am worried about my spine or if i have caused further permanent damage,or to the nerves,i don't know if i have a trapped nerve someone told me you have to have surgery for that,but it all over my back everywhere and im stiff,i do have bad posture sometimes but i have been sleeping on a small couch for a year that dosent have cushions,could i have permanently damaged my back?
what can i do for pain relief are there any special therapies i can do to try and heal? like hot stone massage or acupuncture what has the rest results im in a lot of pain and dont want to have to take strong painkillers the doctor gave me that is only a short term thing and not a solution thank you

Answers:

None of what you mentioned will help.

Speak with a physiotherapist, orthopedist, and afterwards a Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist who specializes in back injury rehabilitation for actual help.



If you have a china town in your city, go find a Chinese herbalist, I had that kind of problem for years, Dr's only gave pain killers, useless way to heal. The Chinese herbalist showed me yoga exercises to do and I have had a good back now for about 20 years.



Ask your doctor if you can excercise. That is what helped me the most. Nothing crazy, just a little bit at first, then add more a little at a time.



Try an osteopath.
This is the kind of thing i deal with successfully on a regular basis.
You most certainly do not need to have surgery in order to trap a nerve.

NB. for the record Vertebral artery dissections from chiropractic treatment occur as frequently as they do from having hair washed by a hair dresser. its very uncommon but known as "beauty Parlor syndrome". You Don't see people advising you not to see a hairdresser for a haircut now do you?

NB 2.
Quackwatch should not be taken as a credible source. it is not pubmed or the cochrane review. it is A biased website written by a man with an agenda.
Look closely at the writing and you can see it is the work of a man who started a self appreciation society.

Also look at this web page which exposes him in open court for what he realy is:
http://www.canlyme.com/quackwatch.html
No credible skeptic should go anywhere near Quackwatch.

Edit:
Dr Barret was exposed in court as a liar.
he admitted that he failed his pyschiatry exams and then registered as a psychiatrist.
This put his "expert witness" testimony into question as he commented on many cases as a Psychiatrist. As he hasn't even passed the registration exams his cridbility as an expert is seriously questionable.
He also had to admit his ties to big pharma and the AMA.
In no way can he be viewed as independent.

He has not won a single case and owes huge sums of money in counter claims against him for defamation. These are indisputable FACTS.
If you want to gain the respect of the people who blog here you need to be less defensive of this man who quite clearly is not what he claims to be.

NB. he isn't a threat to me. He's such an embarrassment even skeptics are distancing themselves from him. I hope his site stays up forever so that we can continue to rip it to pieces.

Edit:
People can look at the net see the blogs and work out for themselves whether it is the head of his own self appreciation society Steven Barratt or everyone else who seems to come up with court records and testimony suggesting that Dr (Ha Ha!) Barrett is lying.

http://www.canlyme.com/quackwatch.html

###Dr. Stephen Barrett of Quackwatch Exposed In Court Cases
At trial, under a heated cross-examination by Negrete, Barrett conceded that he was not a Medical Board Certified psychiatrist because he had failed the certification exam.

This was a major revelation since Barrett had provided supposed expert testimony as a psychiatrist and had testified in numerous court cases. Barrett also had said that he was a legal expert even though he had no formal legal training.###

It goes on:
###Court Case: Stephen Barrett, M.D. vs. Tedd Koren, D.C. and Koren Publications, Inc.
Court of Common Pleas of Lehigh County for the State of Pennsylvania
Court Case No.: 2002-C-1837###
Do a google search and you'll find plenty more like this...


####At that time, 50 years ago board certification was not necessary to run a medical practice. Please look at Dr Barretts’s impressive CV: http://www.quackwatch.org/10Bio/biovitae…

Correct. Does that make it alright though?
Someone could fail their final osteopathic exams in the UK and then set up shop in Italy where being qualified isn't necessary to practice as an osteopath. its not illegal but would you go and see them?

At the time they were a bit looser about exams because only 50 years prior they had a medical profession that apprenticed into medicine with no formal training and 50% of them where illiterate. Standards were set and a lot of people who didn't make it were let in to the profession because there would have been a dire shortage otherwise. This was also shortly after world war 2 when there was a dire shortage of numbers in the medical "profession"

The reason why these registration standards are now upheld and people aren't let through is because the standards are necessary and upholding them will not leave a dire shortage of practitioners.

I view quackwatch as a assett. If that is the best the skeptics can come up with I don't have to worry about anything.
Stephen Barratt doesn't get to me at all. I view him with amusement and contempt.
Answer me this Gary. Should Quackwatch be viewed as on the same level as pubmed or the Cochrane review? I hope you say no to that....
....I really do

Edit:
Like I said Gary, I've got nothing to worry about.
odd that consumer protection seems to exempt the practitioners who harm 100,000's worldwide annually.....
Funny that......
Actually its bloody tragic.

NZ registered Osteopath



see an hio method upper cervical specific chiropractor. unnecessary back surgeries are a racket. about 300,000 low back surgeries are done annually in the united states, the great majority unnecessary. they fail to give relief so often,much less correct the root cause, that they give their failure itself a name, "failed low back surgery syndrome". (sounds really scientific, right skeppies?) the damage done by fixating one motor unit surgically hastens the degeneration of the adjacent ones, hence patients often get repeated surgeries, none ever correcting the cause of the problem.( gary, you're lying again. look, either learn something of what you're talking about, or just have the honesty to sit the question out in silence. who knows, you might actually learn something, though there's little reason to hope thus far. the most glaring lie this time is in reference to upper cervical doctors moving the upper neck every time. lie number two, that they rotate the upper neck and manipulate it. anyone who knows anything about uc specific chiropractic knows it is most distinguished by NOT using rotary neck movement, that ADJUSTMENT (not manipulation, and not synonymous for it- look this one up too, gary, since your mouth is running way ahead of your brain, as usual) is a momentary impulse, usually on the transverse process of atlas form a side-posture. an adjustment, unlike medicine which is passed out at every patient complaint to shut them up, is not given based on symptoms, but only given when objective findings indicate the need for it. i really get tired of clueless pseudo-experts misrepresenting chiropractic while posing as if they know all about it.



Nitric Recycler from Apex Energetics increases O2 and blood flow thru out the body, especially damaged tissues, by reducing negative effects of NOS. This should be dosed at a teaspoon am and pm, as may give some people headaches. Acu points SI3-BL62 are commonly used for spinal pain. If coughing or straining or rising in am's affect you, chances are a disc is involved. If it hurts mostly at night, it is more likely arthritis of the facets. I like the "Invertrac" machine, available from Canada for around $300 for my past back injuries. Dr. Jung DC FIAMA

20 years experience.



See a musculoskeletal specialist.

Acupuncture can not be differentiated from placebo in clinical trials and chiropractic has not been substantiated to provide anything more than temporary relief for lower back pain, despite their claims

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Upper Cervical Chiropractic:
"Some subluxation-based chiropractors believe that most ailments, including low-back pain, are related to misaligned vertebrae in the neck. These "upper cervical specialists" always adjust the neck, usually the top two vertebrae at the base of the skull. This can be dangerous, since excessive rotation of the head and upper cervical spine places a strain on the vertebral arteries and can result in vascular injury or stroke."

"... cervical manipulation should never be done routinely, especially as a preventive-maintenance measure. Most of us will never need cervical manipulation. Upper cervical chiropractors who manipulate the neck of every patient they see should be avoided."
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRela…

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EDIT: @lightning, you have been called out before for lying about Dr Barrett. Your cited article has been posted at every quack chiro site on the web. It is demonstrably untruthful: http://www.quackwatch.com/00AboutQuackwa…

But of course quacks are going to make personal attacks on the consumer protection champion Dr Barrett if he is a threat to them. What they never do, and what YOU fail to do is actually address Dr Barrett's ARTICLES and point out where they are wrong. Which indicates they aren't wrong.

So you are presenting an argument from ad hominem, but this time it has FAILED, because Dr Barrett did NOT WRITE the article I cited. It was written by Samuel Homola, D.C. - who practiced chiropractic for 43 years.

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EDIT: @lightning, you've been caught out, stop digging yourself deeper into it. Barrett did not write the article I posted and it's original source is not quackwatch.

Furthermore, Dr Barrett was not 'exposed' in court as a liar and did not 'admit' that he failed his psychiatry exams. You are getting this false information from quack websites, hypocritical since you accuse me of using non-credible sources.

In Dr Barrett’s own words:
“I took the certifying exam in 1964 when about 1/3 of psychiatrists were board-certified. The exam had two halves, psychiatry and neurology. I passed the psychiatric part but failed neurology because it included topics unrelated to either my training or my interests. Unlike most residencies, my psychiatric training program had no neurologic component. Since there was no reason to believe that certifcation was necessary, I decided not to re-take the exam.”

At that time, 50 years ago board certification was not necessary to run a medical practice. Please look at Dr Barretts’s impressive CV: http://www.quackwatch.org/10Bio/biovitae…

And you can read the entire truth here: http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/bolen.ht…

Dr Barrett really rattles you bones, doesn’t he? Funny that. Well now that you know the truth I don’t expect to see you to drag out this slanderous and fallacious argument again.

In any case, Dr Barrett is completely off the question topic. If you want to gain the respect of the people who blog here you need to 1) get your facts right, 2) stop being so gullible, and 3) stop behaving like a crank.

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EDIT: @lightning, should Quackwatch be viewed as on the same level as pubmed or the Cochrane review? Of course not! Its a consumer protection site, set up to help guard against intellectually dishonest individuals who prey upon the vulnerable. You should be grateful. The only people who should have any problem with it are the quacks.




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