Do alt medders understand physics?!
Question: Do alt medders understand physics?
"at the level of its subatomic particles and so-called "orbiting electrons" which aren't even orbiting in the first place. Electrons are vibrations and not physical objects.
But, oh yeah, I forgot. The skeptics don't know that yet."
Well actually it's scientists who have known this for 100 years. Dirac won the Nobel Prize in 1933 for solving the field equation for the electron and at the same time positing the existence of the positron.
"That won't be taught that in university physics classes until probably 2020"
Totally wrong, it's been taught at university for many decades.
"For now, they've all convinced themselves that electrons are -- get this -- tiny "particles" flying around atomic nuclei and tremendous speeds which just happen to stay in their little orbits like little perpetual motion machines (which they say are impossible), until all of a sudden, these electron "particles" inexplicably leap to a higher or lower orbit without occupying the space in-between those orbits at any moment."
Well we've known for a couple of hundred years that they are not tiny particles flying around nuclei, if they were they would emit synchrotron radiation and decay. Yes, they really DO leap from one energy level to another without occupying any states in between - it's called Quantum Mechanics and was sorted at the Solvey conference 1927.
All this was found in http://www.naturalnews.com/031297_homeop…
Questions:
Are alt medders as ignorant about all science as they are about medicine?
Is it deliberate that they just misrepresent everything?
It's almost as bad as a Poe, but I think they seriously believe it all.
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Your barber, the manager of the grocery or the fellow directing traffic, do you really expect them to know physics? C'mon....that's rather unrealistic.
Who do you think buys these things, reads that stuff?
Wow, what paranoia and ignorance. It's utterly bizarre that real science is far stranger than the nonsense that alties subscribe to, to the extent that the poor fools struggle to get their heads around quantum mechanics. As I've always said, they're quite happy to believe in fairies and unicorns but not something like molecular orbital theory, illogical in the extreme.
"You may be interested to know that a number of prominent theoretical physicists make room for an as-yet not understood mechanism which could explain homeopathy."
Er, no. They might make way for an as-yet not understood theory, but it won't be one that explains why water or sugar pills have no effect on illness, that's well understood. Desperately grasping at straws as usual.
Edit: lol @ Dr T. Why don't you try answering the points raised rather than give us the fake "woe is me, I'm being critiscised!" melodrama?
Uhhhh... yeah. Some of us understand the basics of physics. MOST people (including the vast majority of scientists in general) do not have a complete, thorough grasp of theoretical physics. Actually... I'd venture that most theoretical physicists would say their grasp of the material is tenuous. *laughing*
Your excerpt above laden with emotionality that makes it quite ridiculous. But as late as the early 1990's we WERE still being taught that electrons were particles. If you recall, at the time their orbits were understood as 2 dimensional, even! (And conceptually, orbits and particles are still how valence levels are most easily understood, though now it's as analogy.)
It was only a few years later that our understanding of "matter" changed dramatically. Delightfully, I fell into that gap because I had to re-learn the whole shebang when I went back for my second degree. LOL
You may be interested to know that a number of prominent theoretical physicists make room for an as-yet not understood mechanism which could explain homeopathy.
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Painful. It seems as though y'all will push the boundaries of normal discourse and interpretation beyond reason, provided it supports your antipathy.
This is not skepticism at it's best, it's scientism at it's worst. It's emotional. Not discernment but judgment, bent on destroying any voice deemed unholy dissension.
THE SKEPTIC'S DICTIONARY:
"Scientism, in the strong sense, is the self-annihilating view that only scientific claims are meaningful, which is not a scientific claim and hence, if true, not meaningful. Thus, scientism is either false or meaningless."
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FYI - In 1990, I was in high school chemistry classes learning that valence electron orbits were similar to the orbits of the planets around the sun (ie: 2D-like singular, fixed path.) It was not until my second degree in university that I learned the valence shells are not "2D" orbits along a predetermined path, but 3D spherical fields through which the electrons travel.
I could accept that it may take 3 decades for cutting edge chemistry to filter into high school textbooks, actually. However... Rutherford actually didn't make a significant contribution to explaining the ELECTRON model. His experiments supported the exact concept of valence electrons I described above - like planets orbiting the sun on a fixed path.
But hey... why let reason and facts cloud salient discussion. *rolling eyes*
you hit the wrong heading. apparently you hadn't noticed, but this forum is not about structural engineering. it's about health care. medicine fails at most of it. if you're suggesting that medical doctors are good at building bridges, great. let them do something they're actually good at.
search for "electric universe" and have a look how stupid physics are
water has memory
plasma cosmology
Nicola Tesla and the electric universe
symbols of the alien sky
thunderbolts
electricity in space