What would you like to ask?Is there an alternative medicine for epileptic seizur!

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Lightning writes: "The nervous system isn't constantly feeding electrical signals back and forth between the brain and the body? This energy can't be measured? I was under the impression an epileptic seizure occurs when all the neurons in the Brain fire simultaneously. If that isn't an imbalance in energy what is?"

ROFL!
Carrots also have measurable electrical signals. Billions every second. Perhaps by convoluted osteopathic thinking, this means they have epilepsy. Use of the phrase "imbalance of energy" demonstrates once again the writer's total cluelessness about both science and medicine. (This comes from leaving school at the age of 16 without any classes in sciences).

Lightning writes:
"There are Osteopathic protocols in some circles for treating epilepsy but the data on efficacy is anecdotal."

Yes, indeed. "Andrew Still, inventor of osteopathy, ascribes epilepsy to lesion causing prolapse of the diaphragm, and obstruction to the arterial and venous blood, and of the lymph, in the vessels perforating it. In this way the products of digestion are retained and decompose, the patient suffering from auto-intoxication"
The cure?
[From Andrew Still]:
"With the patient in the knee-chest position, I gently place my hands on the lower part of the abdomen and bring the bowels from the pelvic cavity... Adjust the fifth lumbar with the sacrum and be sure to adjust all lumbar articulations. This treatment has brought results satisfactory to myself and patients."

Like Lightning, "Dr" Still was proud to call himself a Doctor despite never graduating Medical School...


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Lightning writes: "I couldn't care less of the title Doctor. I don't use it often. If I was not allowed to, it would make no difference."

Lightning's defence for calling himself a "Doctor" is that everyone is allowed to do so in New Zealand... This is the usual rationalization of ignorant quacks.

"Dr. Still did attend and complete medical school but couldn't obtain a certificate because it burnt down in the civil war."

Actually, Still's lengthy, egomaniacal (notice a pattern?) autobiography has been examined in detail, and many of Still's statements were found to be outright lies. His only early medical training was as a helper to his missionary father. He was not, as he says, a "surgeon" in the American Civil War — he was an orderly/steward. He later "completed" a short course in "medicine" at one of the quicky commercial colleges that flourished in Kansas after the war.

What would I like to ask? Isn't this YOUR question? There is no proven "alternative" medicine for epileptic seizures. If it works, it is medicine. If it doesn't then why would you want to use it?
Epilepsy can be quite difficult to treat, and the treatment involves medication, getting adequate sleep, reducing stress, and avoiding known triggers of seizures (eg alcohol)

Thenoseknows-nothing. There is no role for homeopathic treatment for seizures, or in fact any real condition. Homeopathy consists of putting a drop of very pure water onto a sugar tablet and letting it evaporate. It is the ultimate placebo treatment. There is ZERO evidence that people have had reduction in seizures taking homeopathic medicine. I ask thenoseknowsnothing to provide a link to just one article supporting that claim.

It is a chronic problem and does require professional treatment, but by a medical doctor, not a homeopath or any other quacks.

Sure there is an alternative medicine.

You could follow general protocols.
but the best is to have you 'diagnosed' by someone who understands energy patterns in your body.

Depending on your situation you may focus on the most urgent things first,
and in the process you will get more understanding of the human mind/body.

See Cranio Sacral, Chiropractic, Acupuncture, Jin Shin Jyutsu.
They all can help.
Try and find a practitioner that guides you in the understanding and self-help.

Unfortunately there isn't a "proven" method of treatment for epilepsy that is alternative.
Conventionally drugs can make it stable but sometimes these aren't much cop either.

I'd be interested to see cadavaric studies of patients with epilepsy to see if tightening around the brain stem is a common factor as anatomically speaking this could a factor.

There are Osteopathic protocols in some circles for treating epilepsy but the data on efficacy is anecdotal. It's not something I would claim to be able to treat and I certainly wouldn't take on a patient if they presented because they wanted me to treat their epilepsy.

I'd like to see a decent study done on this as i think there may be something in it as these techniques centre on keeping the structures around the brain functioning correctly so they don't impinge it at all.

Its interesting that Gary has come to the conclusion that energy patterns do not exist....
Ok...... so the brain isn't full of electrical impulses with billions of firings per second then?

The nervous system isn't constantly feeding electrical signals back and forth between the brain and the body?
This energy can't be measured?

I was under the impression an epileptic seizure occurs when all the neurons in the Brain fire simultaneously. If that isn't an imbalance in energy what is?

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###Those would be 'electrical patterns', not 'energy patterns', genius.###
Oh I see, In your book electricity isn't energy.
Once you apply a name to a specific type of energy it ceases to be "Energy" does it?
I see you have a very stratified view of nature.

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####ROFL!
Carrots also have measurable electrical signals. Billions every second. Perhaps by convoluted osteopathic thinking, this means they have epilepsy. Use of the phrase "imbalance of energy" demonstrates once again the writer's total cluelessness about both science and medicine.####
& people accuse me of straw man arguments!!
This is the most ridiculous comparison I have ever seen.

####Yes, indeed. "Andrew Still, inventor of osteopathy, ascribes epilepsy to lesion causing prolapse of the diaphragm, and obstruction to the arterial and venous blood, and of the lymph, in the vessels perforating it. In this way the products of digestion are retained and decompose, the patient suffering from auto-intoxication"###
Based on 19th century A&P this wasn't an unreasonable conclusion. He was correct about many things not EVERYTHING.

###The cure?
[From Andrew Still]:
"With the patient in the knee-chest position, I gently place my hands on the lower part of the abdomen and bring the bowels from the pelvic cavity... Adjust the fifth lumbar with the sacrum and be sure to adjust all lumbar articulations. This treatment has brought results satisfactory to myself and patients."####
And what were the medical protocols of the time?
Bromine? Wonderful stuff known to reduce Libido too.
http://www.epilepsiemuseum.de/alt/body_t…

In the same article you'll see shortly before remedies included extracts from the human skull "if male to be given female, and if female to be given male"
Wow A lovely bit of cannibalism!
Absinth was also administered.

What about in the eastern block where "epileptcs' were isolated in mental institutions?
A. T. Stills methodology may be strange but it was a lot better than the conventional methods of the time.

####Like Lightning, "Dr" Still was proud to call himself a Doctor despite never graduating Medical School...####
Dr. Still did attend and complete medical school but couldn't obtain a certificate because it burnt down in the civil war. At that time most medical physicians apprenticed into medicine and around 50% were illiterate. Most medical physicians of that time didn't attend medical school.

I couldn't care less of the title Doctor. I don't use it often. If I was not allowed to, it would make no difference.This user is clearly jealous of my entitlement to it but cannot fathom why I care so little for it that ordinarily I choose not to use it. This is because he is an inverted snob who is a victim of the British class system.
Very sad indeed.......

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I see you've made a mistake Kalos
###Lightning's defence for calling himself a "Doctor" is that everyone is allowed to do so in New Zealand... ######
This should read "Lightnings disinterest in using the title Doctor in NZ stems from it not being protected thus being meaningless"

Now if that isn't what you meant I suspect you are suffering from the delusional thinking that if you say something often enough people will beleive it. Either that or you are just illiterate and need to learn how to read.

You bring up treatment methods form 100 years ago like we still do them today. YOU KNOW WE DON"T.

NB. All courses in Medicine at the time were short. 1 year. Most physicians didn't go to med school because they couldn't read.

NZ registered Osteopath

Miriam, you take a huge risk going alternative for epilepsy. HUGE. These people have NO IDEA, they do NO research, they are NOT doctors, they have no idea of how the human body works. Alternative medicine is only 'alternative' because it has not been provided to work, or it has been proved not to work.

Look at some of the answers you have so far:

@Mr E is a chiropractor who thinks epilepsy is due to "pressure on the brain stem" and it can be fixed by neck crunching. WRONG.

@thenoseknows says homeopathy can treat epilepsy. WRONG. Homeopathy is a placebo treatment - it's WATER OR SUGAR PILLS only.

@smartass thinks epilepsy is related to "energy patterns" in your body. WRONG. That is pseudoscientific BUNK. There is a reason why proper medical people never talk about 'energy patterns' - because they DON'T EXIST.

So all of these answerers contradict each other on causes and treatments. Can you see the problem here? And not only do they have no idea, they find it necessary to take a swipe at real medicine in their answers. They have no concept of clinical trials, publication or peer review; it's all made up to suit whatever nostrum they happen to believe in or promote.

Alternative medicine is dangerous quackery - stick to the best there is; science and evidence based medicine.

See: http://vsearch.nlm.nih.gov/vivisimo/cgi-…

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EDITL @lightning, "Ok...... so the brain isn't full of electrical impulses with billions of firings per second then?" Those would be 'electrical patterns', not 'energy patterns', genius.

Many people under professional Homeopathic treatment have experienced a reduction in seizures, number, severity, intensity, etc. and others have remained seizure free for years. Others have been able to substantially reduce the amount of conventional medication they take. There are various causes of epilepsy and each person is different. This is obviously a chronic problem that requires professional treatment.

we know how bad the junk is the medics have. seizures can be due to pressure on the brainstem from a subluxated atlas. see an hio method chiropractor. be aware, if you seek correction you may first experience more low grade seizures before things begin to clear. this is unavoidable and a natural part of getting better. ignorant allopaths would misread this as getting worse, since they have no knowledge of the processes of how the body actually heals. it is something totally foreign to their occupation. (gary is a know-nothing who has never helped a sick person get well in his life, so be careful whose advice you take seriously).

Dr John R. Christopher had great success curing epilepsy and in fact, people with epilepsy came from all over the world to see him for epilepsy so good was his success rate of healing this.

Here is what he has to say about epilepsy at his site

http://www.herballegacy.com/Epilepsy.htm…

These formulas are in his book "the school of natural healing" usually available on amazon or the book I am sure can be bought from his website. One can buy bulk organic herbs and get the right proportions and make their own tinctures saving a lot of money on the cost. One of the formulas he used very successfully was the b and b tincture and one can find an organic version of this formula here under the name hearing loss formula (same formula)

http://www.healmarketplace.com/cartstuff… It is very hard to find this formula using organic herbs in tincture form so this is the place to get it if buying it.

It is essential that the herbs you use be organic or wildcrafted. Dr Chistopher's heirs did not stay true to how he used herbs and they no longer sell his formulas using organic or wildcrafted herbs but conventional which are 7-0 times less effective.The best way to take herbs is in the form of tinctures not capsules

This site also sells some of Dr Christopher's (ands Schulze's)_ formula using organic tinctures though I did not see the b and b formula

http://healthfree.com/index.html

Also look to diet

See the 4 testimonies here of complete healings of epilepsy using the hallelujah diet ( a 85% raw, vegan, whole food diet).

http://www.hacres.com/library/testimonie…

To this I would add green smoothies and green juices (mix fruit with a multitude of different dark leafy greens) Drink without food or pulp if a juice and drink both within 15-20 minutes if at all possible

As a last resort try the save your life incurables program by Dr Richard Schulze who was a student of Dr Christopher. More on this can be found at curezone. His site is herbdoc.com

Also I would check out the movie with Meryl Streep called first do no harm of people who cured themselves and their children with the ketogenic diet,,it is a pretty amazing story but this diet is the polar opposite of the hallelujah diet and I feel the hallelujah diet or a 100% raw diet would be better myself.


There certainly are alternative means of curing epilepsy out there that have helped others. But remember


Dr Christopher and Schulze and other great natural healers who cured the incurables did not work in a vacuum using herbs like drugs in isolation, but rather in the context of a healthy diet like the mucusless diet, a raw diet or a vegan diet and in the context of making lifestyle changes.

MNO, you seem like you are looking for a straight foward answer, and that answer is 'No, there isn't an alternative treatment for seizures that actually works."

Have a nice day.

Calcium and magnesium help. So does medical Marijuana.