Post natal depression?!


Question: I have seen many struggle with mental illness because of what they had to endure in their childhood.

Mainly women who suffer with post natal depression which if ever you have known, you wouldn't wish it upon anyone its such a misunderstood illness and if seriously affected can make the mother feel so lost isolated and very inadequate with in her own mothering skills there is alot more to this illness than I have touched on but I do feel some go mis dignosed alot.

I'm not suggesting that all PND is caused through abuse but it is thought and treated proffessionally in this way by talking with someone impartial and going through indepth these memories and emotions is the key to making a full recovery to good health I have seen the results many times also I have done this for myself after suffering with ill health after my third child.


Answers: I have seen many struggle with mental illness because of what they had to endure in their childhood.

Mainly women who suffer with post natal depression which if ever you have known, you wouldn't wish it upon anyone its such a misunderstood illness and if seriously affected can make the mother feel so lost isolated and very inadequate with in her own mothering skills there is alot more to this illness than I have touched on but I do feel some go mis dignosed alot.

I'm not suggesting that all PND is caused through abuse but it is thought and treated proffessionally in this way by talking with someone impartial and going through indepth these memories and emotions is the key to making a full recovery to good health I have seen the results many times also I have done this for myself after suffering with ill health after my third child.

I've had depression, actually had it really bad and it was recurring for years, after I had my second daughter I think I had a touch of PND, having a newborn and a 2yr old was hard, I felt none of them were getting the time they needed, and I felt inadequate with both of them, nobody seemed to notice though, I do feel that my bond with my youngest was delayed because of these feelings though, I feel I was rushing about mad making sure they were both well looked after, and the house was spotless that I had no time just to sit with them, I'll not be doing that this ime anyway Sparks!

In my case abuse was definately the reason I had depression in the first place, I don't think it contributed at all though to me having PND, though maybe if I hadn't suffered abuse in my life, I wouldn't have felt the need to appear perfect!

I think more is being done these days. It is talked about now and women - most women - are aware they should seek medical help if they experience it.
It was never heard of when I had my first child.
I know now that I had PND.
Interesting what you have said about it occurring in those who were abused.

my mrs's had it she had to be put in a secure unit by the time anyone would listen to me. she's fine now but it took a month of drugs and intense therapy.i wish you well

Aside from the stupid pathetic answers given to you by vwcarman and akbattaf. We need to inlist some education of mental illness period, then everything else will fall into place. We don't need a bunch of Tom Cruises telling everyone that psychiatry doesn't work and all they need to do is excercise. It's more than that or Brooke Sheilds would have ran her car into that wall. It's not just about the mother, it's also about the children. It's getting that mother the help she needs and not blowing her off and telling her it's her homones or she just needs a good nights rest. It's truly listening to her and telling her that she is sick and needs help and supporting her until she recieves it.

I was very young when I had my first child 18 years ago.....the health visitor even suggested to my husband that I had PND, but didn't offer any help!

I put it down to breast feeding...the bond associated with breast feeding I never felt as it was too painful, so that alone made my inadequacies more pronounced....I was the worst mother on the planet!

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A good & caring husband by your side can be a big help in those stressful times, my dear Sparkle.

otherise we will have to just trust the Doctors & Nurses counselling u by ur side & say ur prayers with faith in God.

What cannot be cured, must be endured.

If it was as a result of childhood experiences, it is highly probable that depression would manifest well before pregnancy, even. Many women who have not experienced depression before, do so following birth, when the supply of those particular biochemicals their body was producing, during the pregnancy, suddenly ceases. Also, they may have the idea in their mind that everything will be rosy, but then have to deal with the lack of sleep, a demanding, crying baby, and often, insufficient support from their partner. See post natal, or postpartum depression, in section 2, at
http://www.ezy-build.net.nz/~shaneris My standard post follows, but, if you are young, antidepressants are unsuitable for young people. See depression treatments, at ezy build, below, in section 2, and consult a doctor, to eliminate thyroid problems, etc. as possible contributing factors: also seek a referral to a therapist using Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, or Rational Emotive Behavioural Therapy. It is your decision, and yours alone, as to whether to take any antidepressants offered, but, before you do, read section 1, and check medications out at www.drugs.com so you will be on the lookout for side effects, like sexual dysfunction. My strong recommendation, however, is to follow the advice of my doctor, his associate, Nathanial S Lehrmann, MD, Marcelle Pick, OB/GYN NP, and Dr. Mercola, at www.mercola.com and many others: avoid antidepressants (pages 2V, and 2Z refer, & antidepressant websites: page 2). The reasons why we all share the same view on this are explained in full, as you will find, if you read the whole section. All of their advice, (except prayer, because many people are not religious) I have incorporated into the "core treatments" of the multidimensional approach to treating depression, including occupational therapy, relaxation techniques, and exercise, with others as options, such as the supplements: Inositol, or SAMe, or herbal remedies, like St. John's wort. If you are diagnosed with clinical (major) depression, antidepressants may be necessary for a while, which will give the treatments time to become effective. The antidepressants themselves need at least several days, or even weeks to begin becoming effective. It's a good idea to taper off them slowly, with medical advice, after several months, say, to a couple of years, at most, because they are only effective in the long term for about 30% of people. Because of this, you would be well advised to begin the treatments immediately, and maintain them. I'd just thank your mental health care provider, and pocket the prescription, trying the treatments for a few months, to see if they are sufficient for you, before considering filling it (unless clinically depressed, and having great difficulty functioning, or suicidal, in which case I'd take them). If the amount of daylight you have been exposed to recently has reduced, perhaps due to the change of seasons, see Seasonal Affective Disorder (S.A.D.) in section 2, at http://www.ezy-build.net.nz/~shaneris and, instead of taking 4 Omega 3 fish oil supplements, daily; replace 2 of them with cod liver oil supplements for the winter months only! (or, as probably a better alternative to the 2 cod liver oil supplements: 1 teaspoonful of cod liver oil, with a little butter, to ensure its use; I take mine on sourdough rye bread, or toast, covered with fishpaste, and pepper, to mask the strong taste). Consider having your doctor test your vitamin D levels, using the 25 Hydroxyvitamin D test. Optimal levels are 50 - 55 ng/ml (115 - 125 nmol/l. It should be above 32 ng/ml. Those people who receive adequate exposure to sunlight, daily, won't need the vitamin D from cod liver oil, but many people, particularly those in latitudes far from the equator, find this difficult, to achieve.

I don't really think that abuse is the primary factor , or ladies would probably suffer after each and no doubt , the first baby.

I also know a lady who was put in a secure unit with the suggestion of adoption - well, she was my mum's friend - so mum looked after her baby for 6 months until she signed herself out/left the hospital. She was treated with LSD which was supposed to 'rid her of her anxieties' ??!!
A long time ago, I know but I think the medical profession IS making strides now - it can't be a new illness

What lovely Answers you got, any of you guys want a new contact?. l think they covered Everything, apart from the 2 Silly Men Answers.Love.Jo.xx

I think I am suffering with PND, but I don't believe it is linked to anything that happened in my childhood. My mother was killed when I was 16 and I was traumatised but I think just not having her around makes me sad. I live in Greece and they are not very sympathetic towards depression here, I have been told just to stop crying and get on with it as I'm upsetting the baby, considering I have none of my family around me as I am from the UK, I think people could be more understanding (namely my husband and all his family who all have the sympathy and tact of amoebas).

Some days I get up and just cry at the thought of the day ahead, it's only my baby that keeps me going sometimes. The doctors here are very unsympathetic too, they are very hard faced when it comes to things like depression and don't take it seriously, I'm sick of being told "you are lucky, women 50 years go used to give birth under a tree and had to share breast milk of they didn;t have any" what people don;t understand is I'm not depressed because of my situation, or lack of money etc.... depression is something i cannot control, I don;t want to fee this way, it just happens. Some days I'm ecstatically happy and other days i just want to end it all.

I''m planning to go and see a therapist who is Greek/American and has a more sympathetic ear than most, I'm having to do this behind everyone's back as they frown upon it. What angers me is that I have sufferred tragedy in my life and I have sufferred with depression before, the people who don't understand have rarely had anything bad happen in their lives and have never known such grief and despair as I have, I don't wallow in it, but when someone tells me to pull myself together when I'm missing my Mum and I've just given birth, they derserve a slap.

i have manic depression, thats bad enough to sort out, cope with, somedays i cant be bothered, as us depressants are branded as loonies, idiots, the stigma still holds from the 18th century as it does today, it may surprise you to know how many people are afraid of me when i state iv'e manic depression they are afraid, so if thats not discrimination and predjuiced i dont know what is, where do we go for help! do you think anyone will listen me thinks not, here she comes again ranting raving, the loonie thats what ive to put up with nearly every day now have done for 11yrs, do myou think folk will change ??

Sounds like counsel-speak, blame it all on your pathetic upbringing....

'cause it's a pleasent trauma.





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