Am I bi polar or just an alcoholic?!


Question: I am flirting with the fact that I may be bi polar and self medicating with alcohol. I have been on either alcohol or drugs since the age of 13 (I am 40 now). My family doctor put me on cymbalta because I told him I was crying alot. I went to a shrink a couple weeks ago because I was feeling suicidal before xmas. This is when my shrink thought I may be bipolar because of my drinking. I don't know if I really am bi polar. I know I have a tendancy to be depressed and can also be very hyper at times. I have been sober since xmas day 2007 and I am starting to know my moods. I feel hyper alot. I am only taking 30 miligrams of cymbalta. The suicidal thoughts have gone away since the cymbalta and 90% of the depression. I feel much better, however I am hyper.


Answers: I am flirting with the fact that I may be bi polar and self medicating with alcohol. I have been on either alcohol or drugs since the age of 13 (I am 40 now). My family doctor put me on cymbalta because I told him I was crying alot. I went to a shrink a couple weeks ago because I was feeling suicidal before xmas. This is when my shrink thought I may be bipolar because of my drinking. I don't know if I really am bi polar. I know I have a tendancy to be depressed and can also be very hyper at times. I have been sober since xmas day 2007 and I am starting to know my moods. I feel hyper alot. I am only taking 30 miligrams of cymbalta. The suicidal thoughts have gone away since the cymbalta and 90% of the depression. I feel much better, however I am hyper.

Congrats on quiting the sauce. That's big. The most meaningful advice I can give is that if you are not working with a psychiatrist, go get one. Bipolar disorder is an illness that is beyond the expertise of most any GP/PCP.

It's hard to know what you mean by hyper so I'll give ya a little insight I've learned having this illness. If it means that you wake up refreshed and ready to go, are out there highly active all day, come home, get a good night's sleep, and once again are ready to take on the world... I'd guess that you are feeling the benefits of not drinking and taking an antidepressant. Cymbalta is an SNRI. It increases norepinephrine as well as serotonin. Norepinephrine can give an energy boost which is why it lifts some out of depression when regular SSRIs like Prozac don't.

If hyper means that you are racing around and a bit scattered, your thoughts are going a bit too fast, and you don't *need* much sleep, it could be a sign of hypomania. Similarly, if you have too much energy but are iritable and your thoughts are a bit scratchy, again that could be a sign. Generally, antidepressants without mood stabilizers are very bad experiences for those with manic depression.

So, go see a psychiatrist if you are questioning and get a real evaluation!

glad youre back...my sister in law was a drinker for years, she is finally sober and she has never looked better...hyper is in the blood, be thankful the feelings went...

no. you aren't bipolar. if you are 90% depressed all the time, then no. bipolar disorder deals with anger, hyperness, depression, etc. you need to go to rehab rather than a therapist.
plus, cymbalta is an antidepressant. antidepressants make people with bipolar disorder worse. go to rehab!!

Hyper meaning energetic or hyper meaning manic? It could be perfectly normal to feel hyper if you've been depressed. Mentally, you're getting used to feeling low. When the depression stops and you're mentally healthy again, the new-ish happiness may seem like far more than it actually is. However, if you're manic then I would suggest talking to your shrink about it.

I don't know but stick with it man and you'll be happy with yourself next Christmas.I think only your doctor can tell you if your bi-polar or not.YOU DECIDE YOUR FUTURE!Lastly I wouldn't commit suicide,even if my only reason for staying alive was to give all the other A holes in this world a hard time.LOL.God bless you,good luck.

Be aware that antidepressants often cause mania/hypomania in those with bipolar disorder. You really need more than just a family doctor: My standard post follows: See bipolar disorder, at ezy build, below, in section 10, and take the quiz, if unsure, and if the results are positive, ensure you get an expert diagnosis from a mental health professional, not doctors, who are much better dealing with physical ailments, and don't diagnose complex disorders like bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and borderline personality disorder often enough to develop any real expertise. Bipolar disorder usually involves major mood swings, which occur without apparent cause, and often over many months, or a matter of years, rather than days, as with most people (unless rapid cycling). I'd take 4 Omega 3 fish oil supplements daily, replacing 2 of them with cod liver oil supplements in the winter months, (or, as probably a better alternative to the 2 cod liver oil supplements: 1 teaspoonful of cod liver oil, with a little butter, to ensure its use; I take mine on sourdough rye bread, or toast, covered with fishpaste, and pepper, to mask the strong taste). Those people who receive adequate exposure to sunlight, daily, won't need the vitamin D from cod liver oil, but many people, particularly those in latitudes far from the equator, find this difficult, to achieve. If you decide to use allopathy, (modern Western medicine) I recommend trying Lithium Carbonate, or Lithium Citrate. (regular tests are necessary, for these) before trying the other mood stabilisers, but if you aren't good at taking medications regularly, drinking adequate water, and keeping up your salt intake, something else may suit you better. Check out "lithium" at http://www.drugs.com/, and http://crazymeds.us/ and always research medications first, (read, and keep the labels/information sheets) so you will be aware of the risks, and on the lookout for side effects. (Personally, if I wasn't bipolar type 1, and didn't experience hallucinations, or serious delusional states, I know I'd first try the orthomolecular, and Omega 3 fish oil supplements, vitamins, minerals; a herbal remedy, such as St. John's wort, and a mostly raw food diet, for several months. I'd aso eat in accordance with my "nutritional type". Enter that term in the searchbar at http://www.mercola.com/ ). If not considerably improved, after several months, consult your primary mental health care provider: you may be one of those who need medications to prevent this progressive illness from getting even worse. If bipolar type 1, an antipsychotic medication may also be needed. Everyone should take the Omega 3 supplements, or preferably "krill oil" for its other health benefits: use the searchbar at http://www.mercola.com/ . Some people refuse medication, using supplements, and a selective, mostly raw food diet (I do not recommended trying this, if bipolar 1, unless you aren't troubled by hallucinations, or delusional states). Maintain the treatments for the depressive phase, in section 2, at: http://www.ezy-build.net.nz/~shaneris Some topics in section 10 include: treating bipolar disorder with supplements, vitamins, minerals, and herbal remedies. As with all medications, there are risks, and the possibility of side effects, which is why I inform people of the alternatives, to see if they can cope sufficiently well , without resorting to medications. Don't use medications and supplements together, without medical advice, except for Omega 3, which is safe. ~~~ My standard post follows, but, if you are young, antidepressants are unsuitable for young people. See depression treatments, at ezy build, below, in section 2, and consult a doctor, to eliminate thyroid problems, etc. as possible contributing factors: also seek a referral to a therapist using Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, or Rational Emotive Behavioural Therapy. It is your decision, and yours alone, as to whether to take any antidepressants offered, but, before you do, read section 1, and check medications out at www.drugs.com so you will be on the lookout for side effects, like sexual dysfunction. My strong recommendation, however, is to follow the advice of my doctor, his associate, and Nathanial S. Lehrmann, MD, Marcelle Pick, OB/GYN NP, and Dr. Mercola, at www.mercola.com and many others: avoid antidepressants (pages 2V, and 2Z refer, & antidepressant websites: page 2). The reasons why we all share the same view on this are explained in full, as you will find, if you read the whole section. All of their advice, (except prayer, because many people are not religious) I have incorporated into the "core treatments" of the multidimensional approach to treating depression, including occupational therapy, relaxation techniques, and exercise, with others as options, such as the supplements: Inositol, or SAMe, or herbal remedies, like St. John's wort. If you are diagnosed with clinical (major) depression, antidepressants may be necessary for a while, which will give the treatments time to become effective. The antidepressants themselves need at least several days, or even weeks to begin becoming effective. It's a good idea to taper off them slowly, with medical advice, after several months, say, to a couple of years, at most, because they are only effective in the long term for about 30% of people. Because of this, you would be well advised to begin the treatments immediately, and maintain them. I'd just thank your mental health care provider, and pocket the prescription, trying the treatments for a few months, to see if they are sufficient for you, before considering filling it (unless clinically depressed, and having great difficulty functioning, or suicidal, in which case I'd take them). If the amount of daylight you have been exposed to recently has reduced, perhaps due to the change of seasons, see Seasonal Affective Disorder (S.A.D.) in section 2, at http://www.ezy-build.net.nz/~shaneris and, instead of taking 4 Omega 3 fish oil supplements, daily; replace 2 of them with cod liver oil supplements for the winter months only! (or, as probably a better alternative to the 2 cod liver oil supplements: 1 teaspoonful of cod liver oil, with a little butter, to ensure its use; I take mine on sourdough rye bread, or toast, covered with fishpaste, and pepper, to mask the strong taste). Consider having your doctor test your vitamin D levels, using the 25 Hydroxyvitamin D test. Optimal levels are 50 - 55 ng/ml (115 - 125 nmol/l. It should be above 32 ng/ml. Those people who receive adequate exposure to sunlight, daily, won't need the vitamin D from cod liver oil, but many people, particularly those in latitudes far from the equator, find this difficult, to achieve.





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