Should Homosexuality be reclassified as a mental illness?!
Question: In 1973 The trustees of the American Psychiatric Association voted to remove homosexuality as a disorder from the Sexual Deviancy section of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.
With all their seedy goings on like hanging about public toilets,
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Should it be reclassified as one?
And should they be forced into therapy
something like aversion therapy where they get electric shocks everytime they are aroused by a naked picture of someone the same sex.
Theres evidence that using this method these deviants can be cured
Its classed as a sin in every major religion..
They spread diseases.......
Most of these deviants engage in casual sex...
often going well into the hundreds...
And before people start calling me homophobic nothing could be farther from the truth....I Just stating facts............
Im not proposing to lock them up or shoot them or anything radical...
Im suggesting aversion therapy or maybe even castration
your thoughts please
Answers: In 1973 The trustees of the American Psychiatric Association voted to remove homosexuality as a disorder from the Sexual Deviancy section of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.
With all their seedy goings on like hanging about public toilets,
...
Should it be reclassified as one?
And should they be forced into therapy
something like aversion therapy where they get electric shocks everytime they are aroused by a naked picture of someone the same sex.
Theres evidence that using this method these deviants can be cured
Its classed as a sin in every major religion..
They spread diseases.......
Most of these deviants engage in casual sex...
often going well into the hundreds...
And before people start calling me homophobic nothing could be farther from the truth....I Just stating facts............
Im not proposing to lock them up or shoot them or anything radical...
Im suggesting aversion therapy or maybe even castration
your thoughts please
For just about every "fact" you have mentioned, there is a heterosexual equivalent:
With all their seedy goings on like hanging about public toilets........have you heard of "dogging" amongst heteros?
Its classed as a sin in every major religion.. - aspects of hetero sex can be deemed sinful.
They spread diseases.......along with hetero people where STD's are just as prevalent.
Most of these deviants engage in casual sex.....as with hetero guys and girls which is how diseases are spread.
Often going well into the hundreds......along with hetero people who just like casual sex.
So, based on the reasoning behind your "facts", should the entire world's population be castrated or sterilised, or undergo extensive therapy to avert their desire for sexual encounters.
As for no personal insults, too bad.
You really are a twat.
This is an interesting question but I feel that no it should not, I know myself well enough to realise we're ALL different and that's what makes this world unique.
no but you should be sectioned
anyone who can endure the pain of taking one up the wrong un deserves a medal not sectioning.
State where youve got these so called facts then, in the 21st century please, not before 1973. You cant hang on to old untrue beliefs, things change, we'd still believe the earth was flat if we didnt come around to real facts
Whyt the obsession?
Did you know the most homophobic are usually closet homosexuals.
As you say that is merely a fact
Is it becuase you can't face shool today and can't get that image of Paul in the showers after PE out of your mind and get angry as to how you feel about other boys in class too?
Nope!
The more people who are classified as mentally ill means more doctors would be needed to treat them. I actually AM mentally ill (bi-polar/PTSD), and it took me forever to get into treatment as it is. Reclassifying homosexuality as a mental illness would raise the number of patients who would need treatment, making it even harder for people with REAL mental disorders to get the help they need.
You may as you feel be stating facts but you don't know the facts on how and why some of them are born that way, i suggest you read it up on your computer and maybe you will have a better understanding about the why's, when's and where's. You are definitely homophobic [most of these deviants engage in casual sex] that is just an example of what you have written. Do yourself and the rest of the world a favour and read up on how some Homosexual people became to be just that. You have a computer, please use it.:(
along with hetrosexual and bisexual...where will it end
So electric shocks and castration aren't "radical" are they not?
"or anything radical...
Im suggesting aversion therapy or maybe even castration"
How is castration not a radical idea. I think shooting them is a lot easier.
ha ha ha ha - you're so funny.....
What a stupid question!
Good grief ... we live in a modern world and i am amazed you have put such strong opinions on and claim those opinions as fact .
They are so far stretched and of a discriminatory basis they are nothing more than slander and insults
Times have moved on since 1973 as have opinions
Many years ago studies into criminal behaviour concluded that those with big heads were of a criminal tendency ..
can you see where i am going with this? Old research is not outdated and irrelevant in today's modern world
Would make for a very good action film what you have said ! lol
I'll give your question some serious consideration that it DOES NOT deserve.
Homosexuality is not a disorder - mental, physical, or genetic. If it's genetic, it could be considered an abnormal trait since heterosexual sex for the sake of procreation is normal. But that's an aside.
However, within the ranks of homosexuals there are people who practice deviant behavior - such as random sex in public toilets and what not. But is this any different from people who have heterosexual sex with random strangers?
Your question is insensitive at the least - if not down right homophobic, bigoted, and mean.
Grow up you pillock - insults at the ready wot do you expect
MY answer is NO ... and here's why. Firstly, homosexuality is not a choice, it is decided for you before your birth ... FACT. Secondly, many straight men engage in casual sex (if they didn't, there'd be no need for prostitutes) FACT. Many people get aroused by looking at images of naked children FACT. Every time YOU cough or sneeze YOU spread diseases ... FACT. Should we reclassify you as deviant or would you prefer castration? Get real !!!
Just stating a fact:
Your attitude is not only homophobic and bigoted but also extremley offensive!
Worry about your own sex life not anyone elses.
As for religion - look at the wars, tortures and inhumanities religions have caused over the centuries and tell me that churches always get it right!
Your facts are in error, starting with 'all their seedy hanging about public toilets". They don't all do that, not by a long shot.
Your contention that aversion therapy works, is one promulgated by religious organizations who want to believe sexual orientation is a choice and not inborn, particularly if one is a member of a family with strong Evangelical ties, or is a member of a church where it is thought of as deviant behavior, there is a strong reason to want to change. Its far more ordinary for the 'deviant' to change churches than orientation.
Most people of all orientations have casual sex, and spread disease if they aren't careful. At the very least homosexuals don't worry about unplanned pregnancy.
Your contention that castration is anything less than radical is stunning.
You first on that one.
I can understand the need for religions to push reproduction, but really, can't we just let them live and quit acting so repressed about it. I didn't sit down one day and decide to be a heterosexual, I don't think they sit down and say, "Hey, boys look good to me, think I"ll be gay".
Ged i think the best thing you can do is "come out," just be yourself. its OK to be gay nowadays so stop living in denial. Good luck
It was reclassified originally because there is not one shred of proof that it is a perversion (to use your words)
Sure therapy would be OK, as long as the same therapy was used for other 'perversions' listed in various religious texts. They include masturbators, adulterers, those who think thoughts of fornication. There now that I have proved practically the whole world needs therapy I can go on.
electric shocks? see answer above. Does the idea that you, or members of your family would receive this for their sins of perversion make you think?
There is no evidence that electric shock works for anything except giving pain. No credible study has ever been performed outside of lunatic, self-righteous religious groups.
There is no mention of it in the new testament. However, Leviticus, in the old testament does. It said that men who lay with other men, as with a woman are an abomination in the sight of the lord. It also says in the same passage that he who eats of fish which have no scales is an abomination in the sight of the lord. Ever eaten shrimps or lobster?
It also says that he who eats of meat cooked in its mother's milk is an abomination in the sight of the lord. Ever had meat with a cream sauce.
It also says that he who eats of an animal whose hoof is not cloven is an abomination in the sight of the lord. Ever eaten pork? If you have answered 'yes' to any of my questions then 'the lord' thinks you are just as much a sinner as a homosexual.
Heterosexual people spread diseases too. If not then US women, etc. would never have contracted AIDS, or any other venereal disease.
Is it casual sex that is 'deviant' to you here, or the fact that some gay men might be having much more casual sex than you are? Jealous? MMMMM?
Any person who calls homosexual people 'deviants' is certainly against them in my book. And that seems to my mind to make you a homophobe.
No you are not being radical at all. Just a boringly ultra right conservative who is so caught up in his own goodness that he can't celebrate difference in the world. Or you are just some ****-stirrer who is seeing if this silly question would even be answered.
I have given you my thoughts because it seems to me that you don't really think. You just seem to vomit cant and hatred without actually looking at the issue yourself.
Sorry Ged... you say "stating facts" and yet use words like "seedy" and "deviant"... both of these, along with the general tone of your post, can in no way be read as fact... merely an opinion, maybe your opinion, maybe not... but certainly NOT FACT.
And where exactly do you get off by asking people to refrain from personal insults when that is precisely what you have just done, at length? Take it like a man, you pansy!
Homophobic bigot!!
Did you know that homosexuality was infact encouraged and valued long ago, before it was ever considered deviant? It is society that has the problem, not the homosexual individual. And by the way, your facts are not facts, they are unfounded assumptions. Plenty straight people have unprotected casual sex, and spread diseases, and not every religion considers homosexuality a sin. And as for having 'hundreds' of sexual partners, where on earth did you think that one up from?!!
I don't think you are asking a sensible question at all here, I think this is just an excuse for a homophobic rant. Maybe you need some shock therapy for your attitude problem?
Why do you care what they do?
As long as they're not doing it to you, does it matter?
I'm sure you do a lot of things that people find offensive (like posting this question....)
If you're going to classify homosexuality as a mental illnesss due to the reasons you listed, you're going to have to classify heterosexuality as a mental illness as well.
Plenty of straight people participate in "seedy" trysts in public toilets. Many heterosexual people are promiscuous and spread STD's. Every major religion I can think of teaches that it's a sin to have sex before marriage and it's a sin to cheat on your spouse. That doesn't stop straight people from doing either.
Many heterosexuals engage in casual sex, often going into the hundreds. I personally know several heterosexuals who engage in casual sex and have admitted it's well into the hundreds. I'm ashamed to say not all of them use protection like they should. These straight people are actually more promiscuous, and over-all less careful, than any gay person I've ever known.
What this question really comes down to is ignorance and intolerance. Gay people aren't any more promiscuous or likely to spread diseases than straight people. If anything, the gay people I know are often more choosy, careful, and aware than the average straight person.
Are you married? Have you ever slept with, or been turned on by, anyone other than your spouse? If so, according to your own words, this is a mental illness. I propose we use aversion therapy to shock you every time you're turned on by someone other than your spouse. Perhaps even castrate you.
If you're single, are you a virgin? If not, you are clearly in need of aversion therapy to put you on the correct path. Don't worry, we won't do anything radical like shoot you or anything.
Though you seem geniune about saying that you are not homophobic you certainly have some leanings towards homophobia. Homosexuals are not mentaly ill at all, I am totaly homosexual and have fully accepted it.Regarding mental illness, Unlike mental illnesses such as bipolar, schizophrenia and such, being homosexual poses no barrier to being a healthy, well fully functioning person. The treatments you described are cruel and definitly medicaly unsound and such treatments including by those "Ex Gay" orgs have been fully denounced by EVERY phsycological and physciatric organization in the country as being mentaly harmfull and physicaly destructive as well as not being proven to work. Regarding Sin, I remember when it was considered sinfull to marry a person of a different race, and that slavery was okay. Those religous beliefs are based on unsound, prejuduced and poor scholarship that was misinterpreted, much akin to when christians and other religious people believed that other races or cultures are inferior. (racism) By the way I am a Tibeton Buddhist and in Buddhism there is no mention of homosexuality bieng wrong, neither in Hinduism nor Taosm. Deseases are also spread by straight people just as frequently. Straights.are guillty of casual sex as well and most, like gays are not out there practicing casual sex. I do not. Most of us have never had sex with hundreds of people, that is a myth. Being homosexual or homosexuality in itself is more about being in love and loving, the only difference is the person is of the same gender. Also I am aware of that 1973 decision and it was done based on sound research and studies as well as testomonies from different people and orgs. Many of which were religous ones as well as mental health experts. Please get an education. Goodbye.
Instead of stating facts without support, why not prove your statements?
Incidentally, you are totally wrong to even suggest that homosexuals are the terror you're indicating in your statement. I'm straight, but I do know many homosexual people and they are no better or worse than anyone else. They go through the same things all human beings go through and they want the same things as most human beings do.
And just for the record, do you know how many STRAIGHT men and women I've heard bragging about how many casual sex encounters they've had? I've heard of a few men bragging about THOUSANDS! I doubt if he's that proficient, but that's his claim. Considering how many women he had chasing him for child support, it's obvious he's been with several women and it HAD to have been unprotected sex...meaning he was spreading diseases just as much, if not more, than you are accusing homosexuals of doing.
Please get your head out of the dream world you're living in and actual do the research yourself...outside of the religious zealots realm of knowledge. I believe in God and as I said, I'm straight, but none of that has any basis on trying to classify a group of people you can't possible understand with your mind so closed as it is. AND if we followed the bible, ANYONE who has sex outside of marriage should be prosecuted...yet we don't do that. Why pick on homosexuals, especially since our culture has made it virtually impossible for them to get married in the first place?
I don't think God wants anyone on Earth to be judge, jury and/or executioner, especially in this case. If it's wrong by God's standards, HE will deal with it when the time comes. The rest of us should just mind our own business and live and let live.
Think about it.
PS: FORCED into therapy????? Are you serious? How would you like to be forced to do something? Anything? Especially if you saw nothing wrong with yourself as you were? If that ever happens, I'm defecting to another country because that would mean that the US was no longer the land of the free. I wouldn't want to live in a country like that, waiting to see what else it would "force" it's people into.
Dude = I'm not agreeing with everything you've stated there as Ithink a lot of it is bull, I'm gay and I'm totally for the gov't and medical bodies to consider this a mental illness and start treatment to help cure it.......yeah I know I know, I'mgonna get hollered at for all the gays and lesbians who think that I'm a sellout----but I would much rather live a life with a beautiful woman that i was attracted to then to have to deal with hormone crazy men expecting sex at the drop of the hat. So yeah, I agree, mental illness that need to be researched....and God willing, the'll come up with a cure
YES it should be .....
Its disgusting and a horrible act .....
Years ago it was illegal why cant it be the same today!!
Well in the UK it used to be illegal to be one then suddenly everything changed. For the worse.
I don't hate them as people, but what they get up to makes me feel sick.
It also annoys me that they have to go round pronouncing that they are gay. We heterosexuals don't go round shouting about that we are heterosexual. Why don't they all just shut up about their sexual deviance, and get on with living quietly,and sensibly.
There is too much of it all on TV too.
Yes I agree with you. I think they are all barmy.