Does it bother folks with mental illnesses that you don't have the same civi!


Question: It really bothers me that I don't have the same rights as others because I have bipolar disorder.

1) there are lots of jobs I would not be allowed to work at (OK, I am disabled, but there are lots of people with bipolar who aren't) like truck driving, pilot, police, etc.

2) In many states, I wouldn't have the right to own a gun, even a hunting rifle. I go deer hunting with my family & friends & this would be a major loss. In many states, going even for outpatient treatment for anything, you can't own a gun. And there is research showing that people with mental illnesses don't commit more violence than "normal" people.

3) I could be committed to an institution, even tho I have never harmed anyone, without a jury trial. It wouldn't even be the reasonable doubt standard, it would be a lesser standard called clear and convincing evidence. So you can be incarcerated for doing nothing wrong, no jury, and doesn't need to be beyond a reasonable doubt.

does this bother others?


Answers: It really bothers me that I don't have the same rights as others because I have bipolar disorder.

1) there are lots of jobs I would not be allowed to work at (OK, I am disabled, but there are lots of people with bipolar who aren't) like truck driving, pilot, police, etc.

2) In many states, I wouldn't have the right to own a gun, even a hunting rifle. I go deer hunting with my family & friends & this would be a major loss. In many states, going even for outpatient treatment for anything, you can't own a gun. And there is research showing that people with mental illnesses don't commit more violence than "normal" people.

3) I could be committed to an institution, even tho I have never harmed anyone, without a jury trial. It wouldn't even be the reasonable doubt standard, it would be a lesser standard called clear and convincing evidence. So you can be incarcerated for doing nothing wrong, no jury, and doesn't need to be beyond a reasonable doubt.

does this bother others?

Yes, we are limited to a degree. I feel the self imposed limitations more so than the ones society imposes.

I have deliberately avoided applying for jobs because I don't want to expose myself to the stress of moving and starting a new job. I have deliberately SOLD my handgun because of the stigma of mental illness. It was common knowledge that I owned one and that I was a good shot. It was a step on my part to show that I was "safe".

I really am not even sure that I COULD get a job in my career field if I tried to change jobs due to my mental illness.

Yeah, in alot of ways I feel the options in my life have decreased dramatically. I feel like I'm in a box. I also at times feel like I'm on a high wire and the meds are my safety net.

The medical information is protected. I had to go through some background checks at work and they KEPT on coming to me for more signatures on medical release forms. The docs (in my case at least) were apparently just trickling out the info.

I have bipolar disorder, but I have never gone on disability. I almost did but now I'm really glad I didn't. That's crap. I can't have a gun for at least 5 years though. So if someone breaks into my house I'm screwed.

What Constitutional Law says so ? NON
They may quote some "statute" which isn't true law but "color of law " made by an Administrative court , so it is court made law with no lawful authority

Your medical records are confidential. No potential employer should have access to them. I'm bipolar and have faced none of these issues. I'm holding down my first full time job so I have insurance for my meds, and my manager knows nothing of my illness beyond the fact that I'm on meds and when the doses change I tend to leave early.

yes im so upset with the system cause im bipolar too and i feel like i dont have the same rights as everyone else i feel discriminated against when my wife says im just an asshole and i say now hold on there i have a mental illness that i have no control over

What state do you live in?
*Bylaw, your medical records are confidential.
*The American with Disabilities Act protects you from any potential employer asking if you have ever had mental health care.
*There is a hearing procedure for commitments.
*Plus, one can only be involuntarily committed if they present a danger to self (either by suicidal ideations or threats or lack of self care) or dangers to others (in which Duty to Warn would allow the 3rd party to be warned if any danger is present).

I think you should really look into things better because you've been misinformed.





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