Suicide is selfish?!


Question: But what's more selfish, escaping a lifetime of misery or forcing someone to live a miserable life to avoid hurting the people who care about her? Who's to say that the single person's pain is less than the cumulative pain of all persons who would miss her?

Just a thought.


Answers: But what's more selfish, escaping a lifetime of misery or forcing someone to live a miserable life to avoid hurting the people who care about her? Who's to say that the single person's pain is less than the cumulative pain of all persons who would miss her?

Just a thought.

Suicide is not selfish unless you are asserting that a person owes their life to someone else.

Its not selfish, the people who would stop them can be considered selfish though.

I think in a way suicide is selfish to both parties:

The person wants to leave, doesn't feel loved, but makes friends suffer with a loss.

Friends love the person, but makes the person suffer.

I think suicide is selfish..
but, i mean..
get help if you're really
all that miserable.

talk to someone.

Sometimes, it's ok to be selfish.

Just move and you will not hurt those who care about you..........
if your dying from a painful disease...it might be an option........mental.see the doc, they can make it somewhat better..............

I don't think it's selfish, some people just wanna get off the bus early because they don't like the ride.

It does harm family and friends some people do this kinda thing for attention too.

suicide is selfish because all youre doing is something for yourself... it benefits no one else if you commit suicide. Staying alive you can benefit other people.

Suicide is said to be a permanent solution to a temporary condition. Why is that person's life miserable? Do they feel there are no options to improve it?

Have they exhausted their resources for trying to get help for their unhappiness? They're possibly depressed and that is treatable. If they have abuse issues, therapy can really help (I know) and there are ways to get it that don't cost a lot or are sometimes even free. I think they have an obligation to look into some ways of moving out of the misery and pain into a life that they'll feel is worth living. At the very least they should call a suicide hotline and the counsellors will be able to direct them to some resources to get started.

Yes, one person's pain and unhappiness can be greater than what would be experienced by all of the people who would grieve their death, miss them and quite likely feel long-term anger that the person didn't try harder to get help and/or guilt that they didn't recognize the warning signs and try to stop them. But there is always something that person could be doing to try to make their life better -- and to not try I think really is a selfish thing because he/she is worth it and those who love him/her are worth it too.

Is suicide selfish? That is one of those questions with a massive 'grey' area.

I see this as a yes/no situation.

People who are terminally ill and there is no chance for, I understand their decision. That is not a selfish act, the people trying to convince them otherwise are being selfish.

People who commit suicide and blame other people for why they committed suicide are extremely selfish. They are trying to inflict the same if not more pain in the other parties.

I do feel it is something that really should not be considered most of the time. Always seek help first.

I think it's selfish for the people who "claim" to love us & want us around not to let us go when we want to go. It's like a dying cancer patient euthaniasia thing. if they really loved us they'd let us kill ourselves NOW & leave this f'ed up god forsaken place!!!!

Some of us have tried getting help & it's either NOT helping or NOT available to some people for whatever reason. It's NOT as simple as a freaking PHONE call to a lousy 1800 jack off referral service # that DOESN'T help in the first place.

Don't do it!!!!!!!!!

Here, this will make you laugh, whenever you find that you're getting down, find some way to laugh, it's a great remedy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sA-oVFms4w0

It's selfishness, so what a thought. A suicide making person whether male or female puts his partner/family members to a miserable life by hurting them. While commiting suicide they think of themselves and not others who will face a lot of mental agony whenever the living persons remember them.I think it's the bigger selfishness.

Honestly I don't really see how it's selfish at all. People who are that depressed aren't in the state of mind to realize what they're doing really, and that they need help. They lose the will to get help. To them, suicide is the only way out, and to them, it's worth it, I guess.

First of all, I think suicide is extremely selfish...if one is having a hard time in their life they need to see a therapist, doctor, talk to a friend, get help immediatly. Taking one's life is NOT the way out. If someone is suffering get help immediatly...there are tons of people who probably want to help...pain is felt by all...but imagine the pain and grief of the people who they loose...its horrible...one should never ever take their life.

Talk to a therapist or a counselor if someone needs help, or call the suicide prevention hotline.....it could help.

1-800-784-2433 (1-800-SUICIDE) I think that's one of the hotline's. If someone is suffering...here is one of the hotlines...
Here is another hotline to call: 1-800-273-TALK
Take care!

I agree with One Trick Pony.
My life is mine and I try not to owe anyone anything as a general rule.
Maybe in a circumstance where you have children, where they are literally reliant on your life, it would be selfish to kill yourself.

Of course it would be nice if people having a rough time in a temporary situation would realize life doesn't have to be that, but.

Having fought it pretty much daily for about 14 years, I came to the conclusion that it can't be selfish to want to escape when no one else can help you. Don't have any known terminal condition or terrible childhood etc. but just a combo of very low self-esteme, depression and the voices means that it's seriously tempting even today with the prozac.

The thing is, I could die in a car crash tomorrow, be hit by a space rock or maybe a bolt of lightening so why is that any different to me taking the decision? Come very, very close on a number of occasions.

And no one asked me if I wanted to be born which has seriously annoyed me for most of my life, so why should I go to them for permission to die?

There's always the nutty religious argument that life is a precious gift from god and he'll be mighty p*ssed if you kill yourself as it's very selfish. Shouldn't he know that I was gonna do this in the first place being omipresent and such?

So in conclusion - no it's not selfish. It's just usually people who've never been there will tell you it is without understanding the whole process.


As a sidenote: The world would be a poorer place without your smile (just looked at your 360 page), but I'd still support anyones decision to do it.

well having 2 best friends commit suicide together...I think it is extremely selfish. I go to a school for people with emotional disorders-I have attempted suicide and thankfully lived. seeing how people handle that... I hate them for it (not REALLY hate them...but am very angry) 3 other students couldnt eat for 3 months. one had to go to rehab FOR HER GRIEF!
take it from me-life gets better. I have had a shitty life. but almost dieing from overdosing...and then being told I would die if I didnt get a tube stuck in my nose and all of the support from people around me...teachers my parents. my cousins, my friends.
I decided to go to residential treatment. and it changed my life. I love life most of the time. yea...**** happens. but life IS good! dont be a coward and back out like that,
but I guess sometimes you have to see it to believe it...

just think about that, about how you will affect the people you wouldnt even think cared...

that is a hard question to answer. me personally, i think it is selfish...but its not like the person committing suicide is trying to be. i mean i have tried to commit suicide plenty of times, that thought doesn't go through their head. i mean in my opinion it isnt much of being selfish it is looking for attention. people who commit suicide are looking for a reaction....now im not saying the know they are looking for attention, but they want people to feel sorry for them...they just want someone to care or pay attention to them. now this is ONLY MY OPINION...i am interested it your opinion, but not if yr going to put my opinion down :]
xoxo
maryy

yes it is selfish for the one who is committing the act because they are only thinking of themselves and how to release themselves form this world, any act done by one to only better oneself is selfish. For others I don't think it is selfish for not wanting a person to commit suicide, that is a form of help and motivation, they are encouraging to help some one in a tough time. Unless all they care about is how you are hurting them and not about what you are going through...now that is selfish.

it is selfish, think of all the trail of pain to others who love the person contemplating a way out in a hurry. The pain is very real but only you can get help by reaching out sometimes very far to get help... what seems like the end of the trail today could sudenly change and that feeling to end it all was pointless.... therefore a selfish act because of the pain brought to the ones who love you!





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