I went to my first alcoholics anonymous?!
Question: I went to my first alcoholics anonymous!?
i have been driniking about 4 times a week about 12 beers every time, i know i need help, i feel aa is very "goofy" i dont mean it that way but i cant find a word!. anyway i went to a womens meeting, which i am a women, but the difference is i cannot relate, i am 31 never married and no children, all these women were talkingh aboiut how there family basically was making them drink, so i cannot relate!. take into consideration this was my first meeting!. anyway about 5 hours later i went to a bar and had a good time, what is wrong with me!?Www@Answer-Health@Com
Answers:
A lot of people get turned off by what they find in AA and after sitting around talking about drinking for an hour, end up going out drinking!.
Most people who realize that they're drinking too much, quit or learn to moderate on their own, they don't go to AA or any other group!. AA has been spreading the nonsense that people NEED a group to get sober for 70 years!.
"One recent study found that 80% of all alcoholics who recover for a year or more do so on their own, some after being unsuccessfully treated!. When a group of these self-treated alcoholics was interviewed, 57% said they simply decided that alcohol was bad for them!. Twenty-nine percent said health problems, frightening experiences, accidents, or blackouts persuaded them to quit!. Others used such phrases as "Things were building up" or "I was sick and tired of it!." Support from a husband or wife was important in sustaining the resolution!."
Treatment of Drug Abuse and Addiction -- Part III, The Harvard Mental Health Letter, October 1995!.
AA has a 5% success rate, the same as no treatment at all!. The difference is: people exposed to AA tend to fare worse, including having a mortality rate 6 times higher than no treatment (much of it from suicides):
1) Dr!. Brandsma found that A!.A!. increased the rate of binge drinking, and
2) Dr!. Ditman found that A!.A!. increased the rate of rearrests for public drunkenness, and
3) Dr!. Walsh found that "free A!.A!." made later hospitalization more expensive, and
4) Doctors Orford and Edwards found that having a doctor talk to the patient for just one hour was just as effective as a whole year of A!.A!.-based treatment!.
5) Dr!. George E!. Vaillant, the A!.A!. Trustee, found that A!.A!. treatment was completely ineffective, and raised the death rate in alcoholics!. No other way of treating alcoholics produced such a high death rate as did Alcoholics Anonymous!. 1) http://www!.orange-papers!.org/orange-effe!.!.!.
2) http://www!.orange-papers!.org/orange-effe!.!.!.
3) http://www!.orange-papers!.org/orange-effe!.!.!.
4) http://www!.orange-papers!.org/orange-effe!.!.!.
5) http://www!.orange-papers!.org/orange-effe!.!.!.
Penn & Teller take on AA:
12 steps programs 1:
http://www!.youtube!.com/watch!?v=8tPNgHrIk!.!.!.
12 steps programs 2:
http://www!.youtube!.com/watch!?v=5uwx2P5LJ!.!.!.
12 steps programs 3:
http://www!.youtube!.com/watch!?v=7PjpOsE3x!.!.!.Www@Answer-Health@Com
Most people who realize that they're drinking too much, quit or learn to moderate on their own, they don't go to AA or any other group!. AA has been spreading the nonsense that people NEED a group to get sober for 70 years!.
"One recent study found that 80% of all alcoholics who recover for a year or more do so on their own, some after being unsuccessfully treated!. When a group of these self-treated alcoholics was interviewed, 57% said they simply decided that alcohol was bad for them!. Twenty-nine percent said health problems, frightening experiences, accidents, or blackouts persuaded them to quit!. Others used such phrases as "Things were building up" or "I was sick and tired of it!." Support from a husband or wife was important in sustaining the resolution!."
Treatment of Drug Abuse and Addiction -- Part III, The Harvard Mental Health Letter, October 1995!.
AA has a 5% success rate, the same as no treatment at all!. The difference is: people exposed to AA tend to fare worse, including having a mortality rate 6 times higher than no treatment (much of it from suicides):
1) Dr!. Brandsma found that A!.A!. increased the rate of binge drinking, and
2) Dr!. Ditman found that A!.A!. increased the rate of rearrests for public drunkenness, and
3) Dr!. Walsh found that "free A!.A!." made later hospitalization more expensive, and
4) Doctors Orford and Edwards found that having a doctor talk to the patient for just one hour was just as effective as a whole year of A!.A!.-based treatment!.
5) Dr!. George E!. Vaillant, the A!.A!. Trustee, found that A!.A!. treatment was completely ineffective, and raised the death rate in alcoholics!. No other way of treating alcoholics produced such a high death rate as did Alcoholics Anonymous!. 1) http://www!.orange-papers!.org/orange-effe!.!.!.
2) http://www!.orange-papers!.org/orange-effe!.!.!.
3) http://www!.orange-papers!.org/orange-effe!.!.!.
4) http://www!.orange-papers!.org/orange-effe!.!.!.
5) http://www!.orange-papers!.org/orange-effe!.!.!.
Penn & Teller take on AA:
12 steps programs 1:
http://www!.youtube!.com/watch!?v=8tPNgHrIk!.!.!.
12 steps programs 2:
http://www!.youtube!.com/watch!?v=5uwx2P5LJ!.!.!.
12 steps programs 3:
http://www!.youtube!.com/watch!?v=7PjpOsE3x!.!.!.Www@Answer-Health@Com
what is wrong with you!?
1!. you're an alcoholic & your natural state is to be drunk
2!. you've been to one meeting, don't judge anything by what goes on in just one meeting, try several differentones to find a "flavor" you like!. i mean if you went to a lame bar what would you do!? GO To DIFFERENT ONE!?!!!
3!. you were comparing instead of relating,!.!.!.try just listening instead of letting your mind babble on & on, find the commonalities instead of the differences!Www@Answer-Health@Com
1!. you're an alcoholic & your natural state is to be drunk
2!. you've been to one meeting, don't judge anything by what goes on in just one meeting, try several differentones to find a "flavor" you like!. i mean if you went to a lame bar what would you do!? GO To DIFFERENT ONE!?!!!
3!. you were comparing instead of relating,!.!.!.try just listening instead of letting your mind babble on & on, find the commonalities instead of the differences!Www@Answer-Health@Com
Your an alcoholic!.!.try going to a lot of meetings!. until you find one you like!. you might think about going to treatment!.
I did 28 days and now I go to 4-5 meetings a week!.
You should talk to people in AA and find a Sponser even if its just a temporary one!.
You can send me a note if youwant someone to talk to!.
RickWww@Answer-Health@Com
I did 28 days and now I go to 4-5 meetings a week!.
You should talk to people in AA and find a Sponser even if its just a temporary one!.
You can send me a note if youwant someone to talk to!.
RickWww@Answer-Health@Com
i am the same way and i went o my first one a month ago!. i used to drink alot due to depression and the fact that i like to get buzzed!. i am a 30 year old male but i cant do it anymore!. i still have a few now and then but me and you are different cause we arent like the others there!. mail me back if you want to talkWww@Answer-Health@Com
You don't have enough to do!. Your boredom is causing you to drink!. Consider joining a gym or taking classes to further your education!. Also, you may be associating dating with the bar scene!. Not good!.Www@Answer-Health@Com
your body and mind associates beer with fun, just find a hobby to replace the want for beer, it will be hard because when you quit drinking your body can go a little nuts, but nothings wrong with you you just have a bad habit!.Www@Answer-Health@Com