A question for uncircumcised men! (or men circumcised later in life)?!


Question: A question for uncircumcised men! (or men circumcised later in life)?
Hi there!
I am attempting to post this in the Australian forums, but I am American. I have run into an interesting issue!
My husband and I are having a baby, and while we don't know the gender, we do know that if its a boy we do not want him circumcised. In America, circumcision is usually performed right after birth on the majority of infant boys. Friends/family keep telling me that I am setting my kid up for infections, foreskin tears, odors, and teasing for his natural appearance. They insist that circumcision is safer and more hygienic.

So, is this true?

Now, while I personally don't care about appearance, I am curious; do men in a country where circumcision is NOT the typical choice really have so many problems? Do you wish your parents HAD circumcised you? I apologize for this very personal question, but I think all these "infection" threats may be an over exaggeration of what is an uncommon problem. I would rather leave my son intact if it is not really going to lead to endless infections and tears.

Answers:

To start with I think its great that you want to leave the choice up to your son (if you have a boy).

Im 38 and grew up in in Australia when only about 25% of guys were left intact. I never had a problem being one of the few guys who were intact (uncircumcised), I never had a girl say she was turned off when she found out I was intact and I have never had any medical problems with it. I simply pull the foreskin back when I urinate and also wash everyday under the foreskin. Its simple and easy to do. My son learnt how to wash himself and he suffers from very mild autism. He had never had (or myself) an infection of the penis a UTI or any issues with it. I figure if he wants to be cut as an adult then that is his choice but if i had him cut he cant get it back.


Why would you want to be circumcised? If over 80% of the worlds men are intact (uncircumcised ) could it really be all that bad?

Some say its cleaner to be circumcised.
So does that mean that circumcised guys will lack the intelligence to do something as simple as pull his foreskin back, wash then rinse? I have no problem with smegma or smell. By that logic then cut guys don't have to wash?

Or maybe to help prevent you/him catching AIDS?
So "IF" this is true (I don't think it is) then why is the AIDS rate in the USA so high when the circ rate is still high for adult men, but in Europe the AIDS rate is lower where the vast majority of men are uncut. Also what is wrong with wearing a condom? Not only stops pregnancy but many other STD's as well.

Some say a natural intact penis is ugly.
So just because "some" people think it looks better does that mean everyone must be cut? Should all women have breast implants because "some" guys like large breasts?
Plus is a big scar attractive on your face like it is on your penis? Shouldn't a person love another for who they are and not the type of penis they have?
plus check out this link and tell me they look better?
http://www.circumstitions.com/Restric/Bo…

Uncut guys get phismosis?
So because "SOME" men "MAY" have this issue all men should be cut? Doesn't make sense to me even more so when phismosis can be treated without circumcision. Plus we keep our tonsils and appendix when some people have problems with them.

To stop you/him getting picked on at school/in the gym?
I never did when a lot of the other guys at school were cut. Why would other guys be looking at my penis anyway? Plus I have never had a sexual partner say they didn't want to have sex with me because of my foreskin.

So son and dad look the same?
I work with a guy who had an arm removed. His sons still have both arms, should they have theirs removed to be the same as dad? I never compared my penis with my dad. Plus wouldn't an adults penis be bigger and hairier than the boy anyway?

Its my right as a parent to do what I want to my child.
Is it your right to remove a part of your child's body for any of the above reasons when it does not need to be removed?

IN THE END WHY NOT LET THE BOY DECIDE HIMSELF. IF AN ADULT WANTS TO GET IT DONE THEN THAT IS HIS CHOICE BUT ONCE ITS GONE HE CANT GET IT BACK.

moose

http://circumcisiondecisionmaker.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlvP2k-qJ… (pics from baby circumcision)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8voOaGou… (functions of the foreskin animation)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FcN3lT4…

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Circumcis…

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Circumcis…

http://sexasnatureintendedit.com/ (recommended for 18+yo)



Infections, not if you keep bathe him normally.
Foreskin tears, As long as there is no specific trauma to the area, there will be no problem
Odors, there may be a slight odor after puberty when the foreskin has separated from the head. Again this is why bathing is important.
Teasing, why are his friends looking at his penis?

I am uncircumsized and have had no problems.



I was circumcised at 18 by my choice, and I am pro-circ. However, I don't believe it to be necessary at all. As long as the parents and or kid keep it clean there will be no need barring any medical issue later in life.



I'm a 16 year old uncircumcised guy. Trust me when I say, do not listen to your freinds. I have had no infection neither have my brothers. Tearing is actully common in circumcised men since it is cut to small the skin may tear when they get an errection. There is no odor. There is a bunch of nerve endings in the doeskin which makes sex way better. Please don't circumcise you son. If he is uncircumcised he can always choose to get it done, don't make that decsion for him

My penis



I have four sons, and in each case, we took the whole baby home.
I must have changed a million diapers over the years, and never once was there a problem in this area.
Now, 3 of the four are teenagers, and still no horrible diseases or infections in any of them. I think we surprised my wife's family that they did not die early because I would not allow them to be circumcised.
Canada, where we live, was on par with the US in the circumcision category, but fortunately our rates have dropped to a much lower rate than in the US.
No matter, what, it is still a brutally cruel and highly destructive procedure that is never necessary.
No child is born needing to be circumcised, and there are always medical and non medical alternatives to any issue that may arise later in life.
All the care of the normal, natural, intact, whole baby during a diaper change is a wipe with the baby wipe, and don't ever, ever try to retract the foreskin. Never allow a doctor to try either.
The foreskin/glans are fused together by a connective membrane called synechia. This bonds and seals the area under the foreskin, keeping out dirt, bacteria, and diaper debris. A circumcised child misses out on this protection as the bleeding, raw glans, and urethral opening is exposed to the contents of the diaper,...for several years.
As the intact child ages and handles the penis more through urination, general interest, and later, masturbation, this connective tissue begins to dissolve, separating the foreskin and glans. This is the first step in the retraction process and can happen anytime between the ages of 6-16 years. Forcing the foreskin back is like tearing a finger nail off.
Never let anyone try to retact unless it is the little guy himself. The pain will tell him where and when to stop.
None of my boys have ever complained of being teased.
I let them know they are the normal, natural ones, the way nature intended them to be, and guys who are circumcised are the ones that are missing out on the benefits of the foreskin.
I was supposed to be intact,....not circumcised, but an over zealous doctor talked my mother into it when I was six years old. There was no reason,....he just pushed circumcision and my mother was never one to argue with a doctor. I was unnecessarily circumcised, and hated it my whole life.
I began to restore my foreskin four years ago and it is the best thing I have ever done for myself.
I can speak from both sides of the table on this one.
The foreskin I restore will be a poor second choice to the one that was hacked off my protesting body all those years ago, but it will be far better than living out my life without a foreskin of any kind.
Hope this helped to answer some of your questions.
Mithras



No. Male Circumcision is about as beneficial as Female Circumcision, as in there's absolute no benefits at all. Circumcision didn't become popular in North America until the mid 20th century when various prominent Jewish doctors published papers about the "benefits" of circumcision. Of course today we know that it's complete hogwash and doctors now advise parents against circumcision (less than 10% of newborn boys are still circumcised). Outside of North America and the Middle-East, circumcision is very rarely ever performed.

Circumcision in men can be dangerous as mistakes have been made, leaving the organ incapable of its sexual function. Those that are circumcised are also more likely to get a urinary tract infection.

It's illegal to perform circumcision in Australia.

Please do not get your child circumcised. If you had a girl, would you have her circumcised? (which is widespread in the Muslim world).

It's genital mutilation.



Hi = several other Answers have covered the main ground
may i just answer your specific questions.

1) I am Intact, I have never had an infection or any real problem.

2) I live in England = all my schoolfriends (except the Jewish boy) were Intact.
I went to a Boys School where all the boys compared *****.
None of us had problems.

3) The Blackmail by the circumcision lobby that your child will get AIDS or
Cancer or STDs is simply untrue.
It's not just overexaggeration = it is pack of lies.

4) Circumcision cannot be more HYGIENIC = because the foreskin of boy
is SEALED at birth. So germs cannot get in there.
It requires NO maintenance.
You rinse outside. NEVER pull foreskin back.

5) The foreskin is attached to glans by epithelium like fingernail to finger.
when they circumcise thay have to RIP this off.
Excruitiatingly painful and leaves raw glans exposed to faeces in nappy.
How is this more hygienic.

6) All problems with foreskin due ignorant parents/nurses messing with it
forcing it back, or infecting it. Leave it alone.

7) Epithelium dissolves at puberty. Boy can retract it by himself at 16.
Yes, it can tear if you force it back before it's ready.
Mine did tear twice. But this due to poor SexEd classes.
Fortunately it repairs.

8) Foreskin is self-cleaning with just rinse in shower. Takes 3 seconds.
All genitals smell, it's Natural. So do girls.
Circumcision doesn't stop this.

9) BTW = 233 kids died from circumcision last year in U.S. alone, and
that doesn't include so called "cot deaths" from related infections or shock.
So it's not safer.

10) Question you didn't ask, but foreskin is much better for his girl
when he is old enough to have sex.
Foreskin is not <extra skin> it is essential part of his manhood.
google it.


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Congrats on expecting,..

I am American. My sons, father, gandfathers on both sides and my uncles and cousins are all natural (whole) -- what you call UN. No one had issues.

Male circumcision is nerve damage -- a cutting off about 20000 fine touch and stretch sensing nerve endings and removing a source of pleasure from the male FOR LIFE. This is 2/3 of the total pleasure source amputated! This is nerves, blood vessels, protective covering and pleasure zones taken away from a human before the human can experience this. The dynamics and function and pleasure from sex and masturbation of the penis is harmed for good.The only touch organ possessing as rich erogenous innervation as the foreskin is the clitoris. Circumcision deprives man of 2/3ds of the main erogenous zone constituted of the foreskin and the glans.

The other risks of cutting off penis parts (besides loss of sexual function, ED, PE and loss of PLEASURE) include curved or misshapen erection, painful erection, botches of all sorts (many requiring redo) and death. Boys DIE each year in the US from this sick practice.

Circumcision is a weird thing a cutting off of erogenous tissue. The long term harm is huge with nerve damage and harm to the sensory system. A whole range of sensation and sexual and protective function are lost. The lips and fingertips have similar touch sense. To take this away from another person without their consent is heinous.

The infection thing is part myth part bad medical advice. Boys that are natural should not have their foreskin touched by others. The US medical advice was to pull it back and scrub with soap. That causes problems including infections. Natural boys really have no problems if you don't retract THEIR foreskin.

Infant boys are EASIER to care for when they are natural (intact). The foreskin does not retract until late childhood or even puberty, so you do nothing special, just wipe the outside of his penis clean and leave it alone. Furthermore, to prevent painful and bleeding erections later in life, doctors are now commonly leaving more skin behind- in a cut boy this means you may have to push the left over skin back at every diaper change and clean beneath it to prevent it from adhering or infecting. The very thing that mother's think they avoid by circumcising!



"Adults who undergo circumcision report less-satisfying sex, reduced sensitivity and erectile function, difficulty with intromission and increased premature ejaculation."
---------from Nature Clinical Practice Urology 20 January 2009.

Circumcision is no longer forced on the majority of American male infants. According to the CDC, the rate has fallen to about 32.5% as of 2009, and continues to decline. More and more Americans are learning about what male genital mutilation, called circumcision, really is, and the adverse effects and complications that result from it.

Circumcision is not safe, it's a risky procedure without medical benefit.

Circumcision is not cleaner, and does not prevent any diseases or infections; the only things that circumcision prevents are complete, natural and normal sexual feeling, function and ability.

It's absurd to think that extensive neural and vascular damage (circumcision) to the penis will improve it in any way. And what is hygienic about open wounds to the penis of an infant in the inevitable dirty diapers?

About 80% of the males in the world are not circumcised; it's normal for a male to have a foreskin.

Normal people don't mutilate children's genitals.

I hated the mutilation forced on me as an infant, a violation of my body and my rights. I suffered from problems as a result of it, and finally found out about non-surgical foreskin restoration.

More than 250,000 guys are restoring their foreskins to regain at least some of the sensitivity/function destroyed by the damage that is circumcision. But it won't repair the permanent neural/vascular damage.

Endless infections and tears? Those are old wive's tales, lies and deliberate propaganda that is promulgated by the medical profession, which makes money from mutilating male babies and many of whom belong to the religions that try to impose circumcision on all males.

Circumcision has no standards; the damage varies wildly from individual to individual. Circumcision can even kill---hundreds of babies die as a result of the mutilation. Circumcision can cause permanent sexual dysfunction. Circumcision can even cause psychological damage, when the individual discovers what was done to him without his consent. (I know from personal experience)

Doctors do not disclose the adverse effects and complications of male genital mutilation. They are biased.

You probably wouldn't like it if a female circumcision had been forced on you as a child, leaving your own genitals permanently mutilated and scarred, so why would you even consider doing the same thing to a male child?



Circumcision is a fraud and a hoax.

A foreskin is not a birth defect; it is a birthright.

ERIC



I am uncircumised and circumision is just an american craze for hygene. No, it is not confirmed that circumising will increase the risk of infections. However, being uncircumised gives your baby more sexual mobility later in life. Think about it, back then, no one circumised, they didnt even think of pulling back foreskin for cleansing. Lots of ppl may say things like, there will be too much smemga build up and cause an infection in an uncircumised man, but this is untrue since your glands produce a chemical to balance it. My opinion is that you do not circumscise your baby because unlike other kids, he will have his FULL penis. So consider your child lucky if he isnt circumsiced

My own personal research



Im actually Australian myself Red Head and was circumcised when I was 14 due to the foreskin becoming too tight to retract and causing alot of pain.

As you can imagine it was an awkward age to tell my parents somethign was right down there so I said nothing until it reached the point where I hadnt urinated in 3 days and had to be rouched to hospital for an emergency subpa pubic catheter insertion (slice in abdomen and catheter pushed through to pop and drain the bladder).

the next morning I went in for surgery and was circumcised and 14 years later everything is working great and going well with not one issue since that day.

now my personal opinion on the matter as I have experienced both sides of the fence is that I think circumcision is the way to go, it cuts out the chances of foreskin related diseases and at the end of the day it makes the penis look a hell of a lot better.

My partner and I have agreed if any of our children our boys they will be gettin cut.

Personal experience



I live in England where circumcision just isn't done. In over 40 years of using changing rooms in various sports facilities I've only ever seen 2 circumcised penises, one was a friend who was visiting from the USA and trained with me one evening, and the other was a student from the middle east.

I've never heard of anyone who has had problems with having an intact penis, a friend did have a tight foreskin, but he managed to loosen it up with stretching exercises, and never had any problems after that.

The myths that you have heard of infections, tears and teasing never happen, they are just spread by American doctors who make money out of performing needless circumcisions.

We don't have an epidemic of penile cancer, the rates of this are so low that any comparison between occurrences in natural or circumcised penises are meaningless.
We have lower rates of HIV and STDs than the USA.
We don't find it difficult to find a girl that will have sex with us just because we are natural.
We have running water in our homes, and we know how to take a shower every day.
We don't laugh at each other in the changing rooms, well, not about each other's penises, anyway.

Circumcision is no longer performed on the majority of boys in the USA, the figures for 2009 were less than 34%, and they are probably lower now, so any child you have will grow up around friends who are mostly natural rather than cut.

It's good that you and your husband have agreed to leave any sons that you have natural. Ignore your family and friends, it's your child, not theirs, and in any case, it should be the owner of the penis that decides what is going to happen to it.

85% of men on the planet can't be wrong.



I'm not saying that if you don't do it your son (if it's a boy) will definitely have problems, but it's more likely than not that something, minor or otherwise, will happen at some time in his life. Infections can easily happen, as well as other common problems such as the foreskin tightening up, which can result in tearing when pulling back.

Although, most of the time nothing serious will come from this. I still say do it.




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