Anyone in the medical field, tough question about HPV?!
Question: my 2-year old daughter has hpv. I have tested negative for it so she did not gt it from being born via her c-section delivery. Her sister has also tested negative. There are NO tests for men who can carry it, but my husband has been examined and found to show no signs. That doesn't clear him though since men do not have to show symptoms to be carriers.
My question is: can HPV be contracted through indirect contact, such as if my husband fooled around with someone, got the virus on his hands and then changed my daughter's diaper, inadvertantly giving it to her? I have been told by 3 doctors who go with what the CDC says, that it is only passed by sexual contact involving genital/genital contact, or mouth/genital contact, or genital/rectum and rectum/mouth contact. I had 3 other doctors tell me it is so contagious that it could be passed indirectly from a person's hands and even through a toilet seat which has touched a person's infected genitals. SO WHICH IS IT??
Answers: my 2-year old daughter has hpv. I have tested negative for it so she did not gt it from being born via her c-section delivery. Her sister has also tested negative. There are NO tests for men who can carry it, but my husband has been examined and found to show no signs. That doesn't clear him though since men do not have to show symptoms to be carriers.
My question is: can HPV be contracted through indirect contact, such as if my husband fooled around with someone, got the virus on his hands and then changed my daughter's diaper, inadvertantly giving it to her? I have been told by 3 doctors who go with what the CDC says, that it is only passed by sexual contact involving genital/genital contact, or mouth/genital contact, or genital/rectum and rectum/mouth contact. I had 3 other doctors tell me it is so contagious that it could be passed indirectly from a person's hands and even through a toilet seat which has touched a person's infected genitals. SO WHICH IS IT??
It can be transmitted through the fingers. I'm in nursing school, and have been taught this. I found an article supporting this. (Link below)
It cannot be passed indirectly. I'd look into this... Scary situation
does your daugther go to day care?? who else is in contact with your daughter? give her a doll to play and watch her play!!! it has been shown that when children to encounter weird behaviors they put their toys to do them, because they are inocent minds!! I am not saying she got it that way, but if she did that would be a hint... but it maybe she got it from a toilet seat.. in medicine their is anything black and white... everything is mostly evidenced based medicine!!! Usually someone notice something and documents it on a journal and a few years down the road someone else notices the same thing and writes it down on another journal with time their is enough written evidence to make a hypothesis... of course,some diseases evolve quicker than others... had you given her the HPV vaccine?? if you did this might be important information since the vaccine is relatively NEW!!! you need to search everyone that is in close contact with her!! why?? because you need to protect your children and if someone did something... make sure no one does it again!!!
Good luck & don't go crazy about this... stay calm, but look for answers...
Follow your mother instinct, your sixth sense!!!
yes, it can be passed indirectly--but only when the immune system is compromised. so theoretically a person with an undeveloped immune system (like a todler) could be infected indirectly. but something like this should be investigated by the police and a child psychiatrist with experience dealing with sexually abused todlers. because even though that possability is horrible, it is more likely than indirect infection.
This is truly a 'unique' situation...'WHY" was a toddler even checked for HPV? Is an excellent beginning, because generally HPV results are determined via the 'pap smear' in women[usually]...however, HPV transmission has never yet been tranmitted without the mucous membrane contact...
I agree with others who say~ this is an issue that needs to be looked at in a totally different perspective. Someone knows a secret~ So Sorry to hear about your dilemma...but I also encourage you look much further into this, for your child's sake! You owe her that much~ Take care
follow up with an infectious diseases doctor to learn the answer.
Which test did they use to tell you you were uninfected?
A single pap smear is not specific enough to be a definitive diagnosis for HPV (Pap smears are only significant when dealing with regular screening). So, the testing for the presence of HPV in women is difficult enough. There is SO MUCH MISINFORMATION when it comes to HPV, especially screening, that you absolutely must speak to a KNOWLEDEGABLE health care worker (gynecologists are usually an excellent resource) about this BEFORE you make any decisions, or decide to confront someone regarding possible abuse.
Your two year old has HPV.....I am assuming it is an oral infection (recurrent respiratory papillomatosis (RRP). Infection is usually evident within 2 years of birth. It is fairly rare. If this is the case, it was almost for sure acquired from you. HPV infection found among children less than 2 years of age it is possible that it occured from abuse, but infrequent. After the age of 2, it moves into the 'probable' category. It usually expresses itself as anogenital or vocal chord lesions in the child
It is very possible as well, that you had an HPV infection, gave it to your daughter unknowingly, and your immune system cleared it. That happens frequently.
I would be very careful about making ANY accusations towards ANYONE. I have seen families torn apart from people acting out with limited information. They regreted it later, but the consequences can be severe......false accusations of abuse by loved ones can be hard to forgive. That being said, you absolutely must speak with your doctor about this in more detail. Ask if it is possible that you had an HPV infection, passed it onto your child during delivery, and then cleared it yourself. Ask about the likelihood of various events that could have led to your child having an HPV infection. Yes, absolutely, do not discount the possibility that abuse has occured.....get help from an expert on how to assess your child for abuse (especially one so young).
Yes, it is possible for HPV to be transmitted from indirect contact. It obviously happens much less than with actual physical genital area contact - genital area contact, but it can occur. That is how women with HPV vaginal infections also end up with anal HPV infections (if they have never had anal sex). Toilet seats are so unlikely a possible source that they can easily be considered NO RISK.
(however, you can't disprove the occurence of a VERY rare event, which is why we cannot officially say, "NO, you can't get it that way".)
So, it is possible, but not probable that your husband could have given it to her when changing diapers.
**BUt again, speak to your doctor about this....or better yet (as it seems you have been given some sketchy responses from some docs you have been speaking with) make an appointment with your pediatrician or gynocologist about this and get some accurate info.
Good luck, and take care,