What do think of fat people and the NHS?!
Question: I am listening to Steven Nolan on Five Live. What do you think of his current subject?
Answers: I am listening to Steven Nolan on Five Live. What do you think of his current subject?
It is an interesting one but the bottom line is this, the NHS is free at the point of need and has to stay that way. If you set limitations where on earth do you draw the line. Incidentally, the NHS spends millions a year on giving free medical treatment and operations etc to illegal immigrants and indeed legal immigrants who have not contributed long to the NHS systems. It is highly unlikely that much of this money will be reclaimed. So, you could have a situation where an illigal immigrant is given free treatment because they are thin and yet a UK citizen is declined having paid tax all their lives.
I would imagine that doctors and nurses would simply not make these decisions. For most of them it goes against their ethos and ethics of being in the medical profession.
Of course, the other alternative is that we all live clean living lives and end up living to a ripe old age and being ignored by the state when we finally need help with daily living. I saw a programme on this subject this morning and I have to say, I don't know which is worst. I gave up smoking a year ago and was left thinking that perhaps I should stop living such a boring and clean living life and get out their and enjoy myself for a change.
BTW - presumably, we will also stop treating anorexics too on the same basis that their under eating is costing the NHS system money.
loadsa ppl are big and tehes reasons for it. not only eating huge amounts. medicines make u put on weigth too and loads more reasons.
I'm fat and i could'nt help breaking my leg and had an op to put in a rod and screws, was in for a week. Wot is your point?
Very lucky to have the NHS
I don't beleive that anyone should be denied the help they need ... but I do believe that a person needs to help themselves as well - so its a hand in hand thing. Lets be honest - if two people are in the same boat and one is prepared to help themselves (ie loose a bit of weight) in order to get the required treatment ... why should the other one get it first?
Where would the NHS be without fat people?
I know lots of fat Nurses in fact I am one myself.
Fat people tend to be healthy just look at Poor Amy Whitehorse.
Fat people tend to die younger that helps with the chronic housing shortages and bridges the pension gap
I think fat people are ok, their body and all that... anyway... what would you call fat?
the nhs seems to be getting better with waiting lists, I got referred and saw a specialist within a week!!
now if you mean both subjects together then i wonder if anyone doesn't fall under the same views....
people that drive too fast badly!
people that drink!
people that smoke!
people who have babies!
people who insist on doing DIY and don't have any training....
All of the above CAN cost the nhs so therefore us all money and put a strain on the nhs!
Also I forgot the fitness freaks who strain muscles, pull ligaments.....sudden heart failure
All I am doing is trying to make a point. none of the above people should be victimised because of their weight... I am overweight according to all the charts, and i probably cost the nhs a lot of money BUT I work, pay tax and reason I see anyone is because a man who wasn't looking where he was going while he was driving decided to pull out on a motorcycle 19years ago and hit the leg of the pillion rider....
My friend has cancer and has received a lot of treatment, she is extremely slim, never smoked and very rarely see her drink!
Hopefully point made! lol x
i dont know what his subject is, but i think the nhs's attitude towards obesity stinks... theyre quick to help people with anorexia, but that is just as bad as being obese.. there both a disease which needs to be treated as both can kill...more people die in this lifetime through obesity as no-one helps it. anorexic people get help with hospital treatments, eg, drips etc, and special diets wrote up for them to follow, clinics to attend, but what help to obese people really get??
Since more than 1/3 of us or now overweight the question is academic.
There has to be care taken on this one.First its refuse treatment to smokers,THEN drinkers,THEN people of a different size,THEN drug users,until you reach a point where unless your perfect its hard luck.Ive lost my voice to cancer,and i never did smoke or drink,but i dont blame what ive had on them.Most of my family have departed through cancer,but within our group,my grandmother had thyroid problems and was overweight,so is my aunty,but they both ate less than me,so how does that figure.There was a programme on tv last year where certain countries citizens would arrive here on the pretext of a holiday,and collapse at the airport.You can guess the results,apparently its cheaper for the family to do this than try in there own country,where they pay off course.Why is our NHS clogged up,don,t really need to be Einstein,its seems we would sooner pay to chase doggy doo offenders than face being boo.ed at
To treeat or not treat someone because of their lifestyle brings into question most NHS patients.
Sports injuries?
Obesity
Anorexia/ bulimia
Car 'accidents'
Smoking-related
Dietary disorders
Geriatric disorders
Childbirth
These are all 'choice' lifestyles (some of them are very difficult choices) but the NHS cannot pick and choose which diseases to treat.
The choice of NHS or no NHS is stark. The alternative is insurance-based where each disorder is scrutinised by an actuary and your treatment is governed by statistical probability.
And many, many people would go untreated. How ethical is that?
the nhs is sh*t its full of nurses with a n aim to get drunk
no one can be overweight unless they eat too much. there is the argument that some illnesses can make people put weight on. ok . so apart from them the others all eat too much.