Two orthodontists, two different opinions?!

Two orthodontists, two different opinions?

I have an overbite, a 7mm overjet, and maxillary and mandibular crowding of 4mm. One orthodontist says that improvements in my overbite and overjet cannot be completely corrected without extracting teeth or jaw surgery. The other orthodontist says that jaw surgery isn't necessary and neither is tooth extraction.
I'd just like to hear some opinions from professionals or those who have had similar cases as mine.

You went to two orthodontists and only got two different opinions? You're lucky! (haha)

Ask to see projected results before accepting either treatment.

Thank you for the details, but without seeing you and x-rays, nobody here will actually be able to answer your question. Presonally, I would lean towards the one who does not recommend surgery, because it is a horrendous surgery that nobody should go through unless it is absolutely essential. In my opinion.