Do you think that some people with mental health problems are deliberately signi!
Question: I completely and utterly empathise with anyone with a mental health problem, as I myself have severe depression (diagnosed). However, I know that even with an illness I must somehow contribute to society, and I go to college and do a part time job an still pay tax and NI contributions in my job. However, there was a woman in my college course who had Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) who didnt have to pay for her course (unlike me). I knew her pretty well in the end, and knew her character, and she was deliberately trying to milk money out of the state. She told me she has some sort of therapy at the local hospital and I was asking her about it. She practically sneered that she got her bus fares free, had a council house and all benefits paid for her. One day, I had a bad turn and was upset. The woman said to me, "you must continue with your course like me"... then dropped out, and still sponges. How is it that even though I am not well I can still somehow go into work and...
Answers: I completely and utterly empathise with anyone with a mental health problem, as I myself have severe depression (diagnosed). However, I know that even with an illness I must somehow contribute to society, and I go to college and do a part time job an still pay tax and NI contributions in my job. However, there was a woman in my college course who had Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) who didnt have to pay for her course (unlike me). I knew her pretty well in the end, and knew her character, and she was deliberately trying to milk money out of the state. She told me she has some sort of therapy at the local hospital and I was asking her about it. She practically sneered that she got her bus fares free, had a council house and all benefits paid for her. One day, I had a bad turn and was upset. The woman said to me, "you must continue with your course like me"... then dropped out, and still sponges. How is it that even though I am not well I can still somehow go into work and...
Do You know why you can keep going on? It's so obvious girl!! You haven't let your mental illness take over your will power to live life. You don't use excuses and you don't abuse the system and I find that so refreshing. I get tired of people who blame it on their mental illness or disease so they don't have to deal with the real world. My cousin is the same way. She drives me crazy ( no pun intended) with her bullshit reasons for why she cant hold down a job and how now that she has "paperwork" proving she has been diagnosed with a few mentality problems that now she is going to sit at home collect disability. It's lazy and inexcusable if you ask me. It's people like her that makes me want to climb a wall. But I give you major props. You should be damn proud of yourself. :)
Hi, I simpathise with you. But it is not entirely their faulght the system of quack is set up to be where its in the best interest of the physiscians to keep you subservient and dependet and that lines their pockets for life. Your a good example to follow and I support you.
No, I think a very small minority might, but they still have to convince a doctor. And the long term consequences of having any kind of mental illness on your medical files/cv/reume can be severe - anyone who has genuinely suffered from period of mental illness can find it very difficult to get a job afterwards. One unpleasant woman doesn't make a trend.
I know that there truly are people who need it, and for them, the people like you describe are numerous...where i live, many of them abuse the system with their drug abused, alcoholic addiction, and get close to a grand a month, to party and drink all month...so this makes it bad for people who truly do need it..
I do think it. There's stuff that goes wrong with everyone from time to time, be it physical or mental, but we still try to do a job and other things to boot. Then someone like her comes along and pretty much brags about their ability to get the state to pay for everything.... It's one thing if it's a blessing for someone having troubles, another when someone's exaggerating or pretending their troubles! Clearly a psychologist would say she is mentally unstable if she does this behavior, and still qualifies, but honestly, if she were in my last job, which took in people working off their welfare, I'd've been tempted to give her the most difficult tasks, knowing it's the only work she'll be doing unless she wants to straighten up and join the rest of us. If you've ever had a neighbor like this, or haven't yet, hope you stock up on your milk and sugar coz they will think they can come borrow at any time of day or night, and if you don't have it, expect them to trash talk you or act glum around you for a bit.
People with BPD are like this. My boyfriends sister is BPD and she is a true parasite. Her mother owns a company and she "works" for her. She comes and goes as she wants. They open at 8am and most days she doesn't make it in until 11 or later. She has a son who she is destroying emotionally. Yet the state does NOTHING about it. He is 9 years old and has had to endure his mother cutting herself, writing on the walls in blood and leaving him alone in the middle of the night. She still has custody! Her nice apt, car, food, cell phone, everything is paid for. She basically spends her days doing whatever and thinks she is entitled to have everyone pay her way. It really gets to me sometimes but I try to remember it's her illness. Sometimes I think even that is a excuse! Anyway, I can totally relate. Some people are just a waste of air and space.
Yes, you are right.
Well, Borderline Personality Disorder is classified as a "Personality Disorder." I wouldn't expect people with Personality Disorders to be known for their wonderful personalities.
BPD is generally considered the most severe type of personality disorder. It has a lot to do with the person's attititude about life and it's more complicated than having straight depression. The attitude problems can't be controlled with medication in the way that depression can. Mood, anxiety, hallucinations, and delusions can all be treated with medication. Medication can't treat pure attititude; the person has to work on that for him/herself.
I have been around a lot of people with BPD, and they are very hard to get along with in general. It's part of the disorder. It's also part of the disorder for them to try to manipulate people. It's a very difficult disorder to treat.
We had a woman at the state hospital with BPD who was so manipulative with the staff, that the hospital decided to transfer her from one ward to another every two or three days so she would have less chance of being able to play staff members against other.
Hello,
I have no clue as to your position. I get angry at all the illegals getting a free ride.
My son gets disability, I to am going through the process. I say if anyone wants to change positions with us, if there was a way, have at it.
I do not understand why you feel this way about someone who has more sever problems then you do? Is it jealousy that her problem gets her benefits while yours dose not? This is what I read up there.
I too am diagnosed with severe depression, along with other diagnoses, I wish I only had to deal with the depression (which I do not even feel depressed! and feel the doctor is wrong, this is also part of another problem of mine).
Heck the women may have only told you of the BPD, when in actuality she has something more that she does not feel comfortable telling you (seeing how you are responding to her do you really blame her?).
I have noticed in the medical realm, either physical or mental is people are still trying to out dew people, well I have this and it is worse then yours......
Do you realize other people with problems (such as I have godoie goodie) are being shot and killed in our state by cops....just because they do not understand mental health.
It is great you are well enough to do what you are doing. Coming from my small modest home that I do not leave but when I absolutely have too because of my problems I see you as someone to look up too, to bad you do not see yourself in the same light.
Do not worry about others it sounds like your plate is full as it is.
Wish you well!
Its not just people with mental health problems who sponge off the state. There are too manypeople who are too bone idle to get off there backsides and get work, expecting the state ( ie my self and my husband because we work and pay tax) to provide for them. It seems to me tht most of these people are better off than I am. My husband works 15 hours a day, we dont have spare cash for all the treats that (for instance) one of the unmarried mothers at the school gate dishes out to her kids each day.
Ade,
I understand completely the frustration that you are feeling right now. It is another example of societal injustice. You are making your own way in life by paying your bills, tuition, taxes, etc. even though you have to deal with a mental health problem yourself.
The attitude that this woman is displaying is part of her personality disorder. It will catch up with her. Were you aware that the highest percentage of people that suicide after the age of 50 are those w/ Borderline Personality Disorder. That is because by that time in life, they have no support system left. They have run off every significant person. Also divorce rate is high, abandonment from family and friends, a ruined reputation are all consistent with borderline personality disorders. Their lives, from beginning to end, are chaotic and disorganized. Believe me, you are in a much better position to feel this injustice now and deal w/ depression than have BPD and have the state pay for social services.
I think a lot of people take advantage of the state. Not only this, but I believe that one can subscribe to a disorder, will it into action, and then convince themselves that they are disabled.
I am bipolar. I was depressed for a very long time, but then I started having manic phases that scared the pants off of me. I developed an agoraphobia because I stopped being able to communicate with people; it was so frustrating. I dropped out of school and stopped working.
Now I have my job back, and though I still have a rough time leaving my apartment and going to school I AM doing very well. I am not on any medication, nor am I registered with the state, nor do I WANT to make excuses for myself. If I miss class, I do not say "I am sorry but I'm bipolar" but I first offer to deal with the consequences.
I think your friend needs to learn how to take responsibility for herself, to the best of her ability, without making everyone pay for her bus fare. If she needs medication to stay functional and cannot afford it, then I do not mind the idea of her taking advantage of government assisted healthcare. If she is grabbing anything and everything else she can access but does not need help with, then I think she's perpetuating her disability to an unhealthy and unfair degree for everyone who pays taxes.
I think that you under estimate what it takes to get SSI. I've had a physical disability since the day that I was born, I worked as long as I could and than had to stop working and I started working at 17. I worked for 11 years before I was unable to work full time. I worked part time at the same time raising my two daughters as a single mother. I was unable to get on SSI until 5 almost 6 years ago when I was in my 40's. It was only when It became almost impossible for me to walk any length of time that I was able to get SSI. In the mean time I don't just sit on my butt doing nothing. I've volunteered at my daughter's school, I've been a Girl Scout leader, I've tutored kids that needed help. I'm an advocate for children with disabilities. I've help hundreds of kids get the services that they need to learn so that they will be able to go to high school and college and to contribute to society. Just because some one's on SSI or state disability does not mean that they don't contribute to society. I know a few people who can't work full time but do volunteer work when they are physically able. So they contribute to the community that way. Some times we do the work that has to be done that people working full time can't do. As a Girl Scout leader I've helped hundreds of Girls who don't have a adult in their lives to listen to and to guide them. As a tutor I've helped hundreds of children who's parents cant or won't get them the help that they need to succeed. As a person who advocates for children with Learning disabilites I've helped hundreds of children get the services and modifications that they need so that they can learn rather than become fustrated and drop out. So don't assume that just because someone has to depend on SSI for their income doesn't mean that they dont' contribute to society. I have a 16 year old daughter still living at home don't you think that I would rather have more than 646 dollars a month plus food stamps to take care of her??? But I can't stand or walk more than 15 minute at a time. So it make it very difficult to get to a job or to work at a job. I've tried to get work at the schools near me there are three with in walking distance to me. But so far nothing, so I do what I can and volunteer and work as a Girl Scout leader and with the kids that need someone to show their parents how to get the help that they need.