So if I understand this correctly?!


Question: Even if you have diabetes (mine is borderline) I can eat anything I want as long as I use portion control, eat a protein at the same time and pretty much limit my corn, peas, carrots and no cookies, cakes, or white bread or white rice. And absolutely no fruit juice or regular pop. Is this correct? I heard something on here about counting carbs but how would you find out how many you are supposed to have a day?


Answers: Even if you have diabetes (mine is borderline) I can eat anything I want as long as I use portion control, eat a protein at the same time and pretty much limit my corn, peas, carrots and no cookies, cakes, or white bread or white rice. And absolutely no fruit juice or regular pop. Is this correct? I heard something on here about counting carbs but how would you find out how many you are supposed to have a day?

Your doctor can refer you to a nutritionist free of charge,they also have hand outs of carb counts in foods. A normal meal for a man, 180 lbs should contain about 75 carbs and about 30 of those should be protein carbs.Food is now labeled so it is quite easy to count them.

You are well on the right way, doglover. You should not drink sodas with sugar at all. Juice is ok if you have a 6oz glass with a breakfast of eggs, toast and oatmeal or creme of wheat.

Be careful on the amount of bread you eat, even if it isn't white. Multigrain is best because it has additional fiber which helps. Basically the way I've been taught is this... with carbs like potatoes or rice, (starchy) your serving should be no larger than a deck of playing cards. Same with your portion of protein. However, eat all you want of veggies like green beans, cabbage, spinach, but the ones you mentioned... peas, carrots, corn, contain too much sugar to be "free" food. You can have some, but with a large salad, and appropriately sized portions of the starchy stuff and protein.

This might surprise you, but I found out the hard way tomatoes also contain sugar. I ate a tomato sandwich on multigrain bread shortly after I was diagnosed with diabetes, and my blood sugar shot up to over 400, as if I'd just had a donut.

If you want to have a cookie, or a small piece of pie or cake, have it with your lunch or dinner, but substitue some of your starchy carbs out. I guess it's a balancing act... but I think you get what I mean. I'll do a bit more research on borderline diabetes and send you the links. I hope this has helped a little.

You left out potatoes & beets - more starchy vegetables to limit.
All grains should be whole.
Kamut wheat & Spelt both have more protien that is easier to digest, than regular wheat.
Fresh apples are the best fruit, because their sugar enters the body slowly.
Dried fruits are as concentrated as juices, & a 'no-no'.
Agave Nectar is a great substitute for sugar, because it also slowly enters the blood stream, having a low glycemic index (it also is less sweet than sugar, & does not cystalize).
Spirulina is highly nutritious plant, used as a supplement, which reportedly 'has everything a body needs, except carbohydrate'. It reportedly also levels one's blood sugar.
(I guess it's really true, because, when I eat just an apple for breakfast, I get hungry again after a much shorter time than if I take Spirulina with it.)

For other info on diabetes, I suggest reading the

"Living With Diabetes" series of articles, at: http://watchtower.org/e/20030508/article...

Be sure your diagnosed correctly. What ever tests (FBS/OGTT) accompanied with an A1c test should have been repeated for a proper diagnosis. Being borderline or pre-diabetic is like telling a woman she's a little bit pregnant,so your either diabetic or your not.

Having said that.....You seem to be having issues with what you can or cannot eat so you should see a nutritionist for a complete understanding of carb. counting, portion control etc..

You need to test yourself to determine which foods are causing your blood sugars to elevate and remain elevated after approx. 2 hours. Corn, peas and carrots are fine to eat within a balanced meal plan that includes portion control.

Basically everyone's body differs in the way we metabolize foods, so you need to find the amount of carbs. with professional help or via home testing. Generally 45-60 carbs. per meal are in line for men, slightly lower for women.

It isn't so much a daily allowance as it is a per meal calculation. Some people can eat more carbs than others depending on how much pancreatic function they have or if their resistance isn't as bad as someone else. I tend to eat low carb, but since I am type one, I adjust with insulin. It will be trial and error for you. If you don't need to loose weight, then you can eat the normal calorie intake, while chosing foods that are low on the glycemic index. Brown rice, whole grain breads and low glycemic berries are an excellent choice.

Have your doctor hook you up with a good nutritionist. Meanwhile, look up foods on any glycemic index calculator on the internet and stick with those. Check your blood sugar before and then again two hours after a meal and you will have a good indication on how you are doing.

I am sorry to disappoint you all, but there is no sharp border between diabetes or no diabetes, rather a scale running from white, gray to black. The World Health Organisation defines diabetes as having fasting blood sugar above128 mg%, non diabetic fasting blood sugar of less then 108 mg%, in between as impaired fasting blood sugar, meaning there is a very good chance the person will develop type II diabetes mellitus in the future; chances of this developing has been shown to lessen quite a lot by regular exercise and loosing weight. The OGTT has been scrapped as a diagnostic tool. By any means, have yourself referred to a dietician/ nutritionist. You need to have regular small meals spaced thru the day, the calories in total do count, if to much you will grow fat and have more chance of worsening your diabetes.

first of all: do you have type 1 or type2?
I have type 1, so I only can tell you about this: I cpunt carbs I eat, and I know I need 1 insuline unit for 7 gr of carbs. So for example if I count that I'm going to eat about 90 gr for lunch, I will inject 13 insuline units.
This does work, you just have to learn how your body reacts.
If you have type 2.. well, I guess it works the same.

Your list is not complete: also beans, and just anything that contains flour or sugar. Also pasta, pizza, etc
Actually it's not that you should not eat these things: you just need to count them.
Peas and carrots have some carbs, but very little actually.

Just remember that if you really eat too much it gets harder to regulate it.
I can eat whatever I want, but I just must never exaggerate.
I've found out that sometimes even eating too much cheese or meat can increase blood sugar; I know these things do not have carbs, but also other people who suffer from diabetes have confirmed this.

My diabetes educator said that women can have 30 to 35 grams of carbs per meals and men can have 65 to 75 grams per meals. Some people differ on that, but I think this is the recommendation of the american diabetes association





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