Are we asking to much for my dad?!


Question: in a nursing home to be taken to the toilet every couple of hours or are they right to cattarish him bearing in mind the care cost is over 25k plus {he is already peg fed } and is only 59 but can't speak or walk what do you think


Answers: in a nursing home to be taken to the toilet every couple of hours or are they right to cattarish him bearing in mind the care cost is over 25k plus {he is already peg fed } and is only 59 but can't speak or walk what do you think

your dad should be treated with compassion and dignity and yes taken to the toilet when needed, the problem with catheters is the risk of water infections and having to change them regular, your dad would have to have lots of fluids, also dad needs to change position to stop him becoming sore, (pressure relief) so why cant they take dad to toilet 2 hourly as they would have to move him anyway. he is so young i am so sorry, i hope they take good care of him and your mind is put at rest,

No, Thats what nursing homes are for and for 25k a year you should be able to ask them to do what ever you want.

i feel if you are paying that much money he is entitled to be treated with dignity and respect they should take him to the bathroom if it is possible talk to the top member of staff tell them you are not happy with his treatment and if it does not improve your family are thinking of moving him that should shake them up a bit best of luck to you and yours

it's all about staff and budgets i'm afraid,
no it's not too much to expect but i don't think you will get it,
how does your dad feel is he bothered,
or is it just you.

Not sure what the reason is he cannot walk or talk, but it may be better for him to have the catheter in instead of talking him to the toilet. I would speak to his doctor about it since the orders are coming from him/her.

It partially depends on his own happiness, and his own condition. If there is more pain and/or effort involved for him in him being walked to the bathroom, then it may be worth the alternatives. At the same time, I would always say that every change should be avoided in this kind of situation, for their benefit, unless it would bring about a remarkable advantage for themselves.

If it is only the nursing home staff looking for less work, then by no means are you asking for too much.

Check out the reputation of the Nursing Home and also speak to your family doctor,there may be a medical reason for this ,but if not I would consider finding alternative accomodation if you are not satisfied with their care.

Maybe for his own self respect, it is maybe for the best, very embarassing for him if he cannot explain he needs to go to the loo.

It must be a difficult time for him and the family, but they are only doing their best.

I know it must be hard, but speak to somebody at the Nursing Home, good luck, hope he will be ok x

Yes you are asking too much. It would be cruel to wake your father every 2 hours at night to take him to the bathroom. It's possible he has no control and scheduled bathroom visits would not stop the urine from leaking out constantly. Also after the initial insertion there may be some discomfort but no pain.Who is paying for his care? Have you applied for assistance for his medical bills.

If you are paying for his care, you can make reasonable requests to the administration for his care.
If he's unable to control his bodily functions, then to prevent further sores that come from soiling yourself, a catheter may be in order to control leakage. If he is holding all his bodily functions until he is placed on the toilet, then I would want that to be his schedule, because he is doing it.

Not speaking or walking does not mean that he is not aware of the surroundings. So you have the difficult decision of making sure that he is well cared for, and at the standard he needs, not at the convenience of the staff doing it.

Good Luck

I understand that the nursing home must do whatever is in the patient's best interests and I suspect that if a catheter improves your dad's quality of life. the that is probably for the best. It saves him from being pulled out of bed and having a full and urgent bladder with the constant threat of incontinence. Remember, nothing is set in stone and the procedure is always reversible. I am so sorry to hear about your dad at this age ... he was obviously very unlucky in health and my heart goes out to you.

It is not too much to ask and you certainly should, but will they do it, that's the question. Does your dad have control over his bodily functions? If he cannot hold his urine or feces, they may not have a choice but to cathaterize him or even diaper him. Its hard to see a loved one not being able to care for himself and his personal needs. Talk with the supervisor and ask if there is some other way to care for your dad in this area and see what they say. Staffing may be a concern.





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