Do addicts in recovery use support groups as their drug of choice?!
Question: Do addicts in recovery use support groups as their drug of choice!?
So could members of AA who are 'sober' get hooked on the group instead of the alcohol, so something is still controlling them - is it about control rather than addiction!? Is it too scary to have to take responsability alone!? So alcohol and its reliance on it is replaced by a reliance on the group, a sponsor, or the great higher power itself!? Can it be replacement rather than recovery!? Isn't it better to take full responsiblity and not rely on anything but ourselves, is that the only true way to recovery!? to be free from it ALL and just be ourselves, uncontrolled by any other substance, person, or make believe fairy who will take it all on their shoulders so we don't have to!?!?!?!?Www@Answer-Health@Com
Answers:
IMO, most of what we label alcoholism (or abuse) originates from a behaviour problem!. That is, while average people have addictive tendencies, they can regulate themselves!. Alcoholics do not regulate themselves for psychological reasons which lead to excessive drinking which leads to physical addiction!.
If you read the extended AA literature and the experience of the original members it is in order to go to AA mainly once a week, belong and become involved with a single home group and occasionally be a visitor at others!. However, this understanding and level of commitment has long gone by the wayside and members are led to believe that lots and lots of meetings with little commitment are the thing to do!.
I think people do replace alcohol with AA meetings and either a program which doesn't really work or with lots of meetings so they don't face life on their own!. Many people hang on from the feeling of security they gained at one meeting until the feeling of security they can feel at the next!. And inbetween can be difficult!. Many can't go for very long without suffering withdrawels because they have isolated themselves from normal life!.
When alcohol is removed, many of the negative consequences of drinking are neutralised overnight, but the originating psychological distortions, the irrational thinking, the illogical beliefs that propelled the person into alcoholism are still present!. Lots of meetings or praying to god are not really effective!. That is why many alcoholics go to lots of meetings, pray to god, but eat themselves silly, gamble, shop, etc!. etc!. as their unhelpful belief system unconsciously drives them!.
If alcoholics stopped drinking and spent one quarter of the time practicing and discussing cognitive behaviour therapy methods on their underlying problems, they would within a few years become well and the experts on the subject!.Www@Answer-Health@Com
If you read the extended AA literature and the experience of the original members it is in order to go to AA mainly once a week, belong and become involved with a single home group and occasionally be a visitor at others!. However, this understanding and level of commitment has long gone by the wayside and members are led to believe that lots and lots of meetings with little commitment are the thing to do!.
I think people do replace alcohol with AA meetings and either a program which doesn't really work or with lots of meetings so they don't face life on their own!. Many people hang on from the feeling of security they gained at one meeting until the feeling of security they can feel at the next!. And inbetween can be difficult!. Many can't go for very long without suffering withdrawels because they have isolated themselves from normal life!.
When alcohol is removed, many of the negative consequences of drinking are neutralised overnight, but the originating psychological distortions, the irrational thinking, the illogical beliefs that propelled the person into alcoholism are still present!. Lots of meetings or praying to god are not really effective!. That is why many alcoholics go to lots of meetings, pray to god, but eat themselves silly, gamble, shop, etc!. etc!. as their unhelpful belief system unconsciously drives them!.
If alcoholics stopped drinking and spent one quarter of the time practicing and discussing cognitive behaviour therapy methods on their underlying problems, they would within a few years become well and the experts on the subject!.Www@Answer-Health@Com
Those AA people say it themselves, "My names whatever, I havent drunk in 20 years and I'm an alcoholic"
All AA does is help people with abstinence from Alcohol which deals with the physical health issues
By their own admissions these people are alcoholics and would like nothing more than to go out and get wasted
The whole concept of AA is so self defeating, in my view people CAN stop being an Alcoholic and yet still enjoy a social drink if the psychological issues which cause people to drink to excess are dealt with, all AA does is help people to not drink despite wanting to
Anyone agree!?Www@Answer-Health@Com
All AA does is help people with abstinence from Alcohol which deals with the physical health issues
By their own admissions these people are alcoholics and would like nothing more than to go out and get wasted
The whole concept of AA is so self defeating, in my view people CAN stop being an Alcoholic and yet still enjoy a social drink if the psychological issues which cause people to drink to excess are dealt with, all AA does is help people to not drink despite wanting to
Anyone agree!?Www@Answer-Health@Com
all the re habilitating addicts i met, learnt to depend on the group, its philosophies and each other !.!. and never got away from their addiction because they couldnt stand on their own two feetWww@Answer-Health@Com
It may well be that for some there is simply an exercise in cross addiction going on!. However, given the total destruction and devastation that can be caused by addiction to drugs/alcohol it is infinitely preferable to be addicted to something like AA!. Not eveyone though is simply replacing one kind of addiction for another to avoid taking resonsibility!. There are over 700 meetings a week in London with all kinds of people present many occupying highly responsible positions, and going about their lives in a balanced and positive way!. These do not to me seem people who are in any way shirking responsibility but simply have found that the best way to get well is to have regular contact with people who have been where they have and, a day at a time, are dealing with it!.
I attend AA for this reason!. AA has been my gateway to normal living!. Is it the be all and end all of my life as alcohol was for me for a long time!? No, it is not!
Still addicted to shopping though!.!.!.Www@Answer-Health@Com
I attend AA for this reason!. AA has been my gateway to normal living!. Is it the be all and end all of my life as alcohol was for me for a long time!? No, it is not!
Still addicted to shopping though!.!.!.Www@Answer-Health@Com